they're moving into a sudan, into indonesia, maybe the southern part of philippines.anistan, they will just go somewhere else. >> rose: this question: the president is now engaged in intense debate and discussion. >> rightfully so. >> rose: at the white house. with members of congress, with members of the military and a range of academic experts. and military experts. do you think before the president makes his decision there ought to be some way to have some kind of national debate about this decision which many people say will be the most important decision of his presidency? >> it is the most important decision of his presidency. >> rose: should there will be a national debate? >> there is a national debate. >> rose: well, is there a national debate taking place or is it taking place inside the white house? >> it's taking place inside the administration and within the halls of congress. it has nnd hit the floor yet of the house and senate. but the moment the president decides and says "this is our strategy," then the congress will debate it. exce you have a command