with pastor tobi, i actually came to spac nation in 2016. are you? it can't be as simple as that? you will go if you see an alternative. as a young man, iwas go if you see an alternative. as a young man, i was looking for money, i was looking for relevance, i was looking for love, certain things i was looking for. if somebody would come to me and offer me that lifestyle, without me getting involved in crime and having to risk my own life, i would go for it. that option and alternative was provided for me and that caused the change. someone saying, you can get a decent job and you can still... i don't know, still have a gucci watch and a designer pair of trainers?” know, still have a gucci watch and a designer pair of trainers? i don't think it is necessary that simple. that is what i am trying to get to. people are looking for something. if i use my own story as an example, when i came out of prison, i had plans to go back to drug dealing. did you? yes, i made those plans in prison. but an interaction with pastor tobi changed my perception o