i want to thank spaca they brought this for the to us if that is it is important we try to instill ineople how we should try adaptation first and my family adopted a dog from spaca so we understand the juice of adopting the other requirement for small business they have to display something in their cage or wherever the animal is and indicate which shelter settler from san francisco or another rescue orientation organization and that's the jest of it and lastly it to prohibit the sale of those puppies and kittens under 8 weeks old because apparently mel unsound to separate a puppy or kitten that's in a nut shell what we're trying to do and thanks for the animal control and spaca. >> so i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on this one. >> commissioner dooley i just - i have a question but i think that is really a good idea to be doing this even though we don't have that the puppy and kitty mills this will you know put in an official damp on it i assume that employs to adult dogs and cats. >> the district prohibition but that employs to all dogs and cats sold it origin

i want to thank spaca they brought this for the to us if that is it is important we try to instill inple how we should try adaptation first and my family adopted a dog from spaca so we understand the juice of adopting the other requirement for small business they have to display something in their cage or wherever the animal is and indicate which shelter settler from san francisco or another rescue orientation organization and that's the jest of it and lastly it to prohibit the sale of those puppies and kittens under 8 weeks old because apparently mel unsound to separate a puppy or kitten that's in a nut shell what we're trying to do and thanks for the animal control and spaca. >> so i'll be happy to answer any questions you may have. >> on this one. >> commissioner dooley i just - i have a question but i think that is really a good idea to be doing this even though we don't have that the puppy and kitty mills this will you know put in an official damp on it i assume that employs to adult dogs and cats. >> the district prohibition but that employs to all dogs and cats sold it originat

. >> i have volunteered at the spaca many times and it rips any heart apart when i have to leave and san francisco thank god has an ordinance we don't euthanize our pets and do give them up for adoptions i've seen who happens no puppy mills i personally support that i get it about the guns and everything else but i think of dogs and cats as almost human and i'm - when i see those animals that don't get adopted i want to take them home mitchel that is kind of like a san francisco value that we spaca. >> cruelty is not acceptable we're talking about legislation that effects an industry that is not universally unless it is universally cruel to animals anyway, i think i've made any point. >> do we have a definition that might be helpful what would be qualify as a puppy or kitty mill. >> that's not the purpose of this legislation in that they don't exist that will preempt them. >> we don't sell them in stores anywhere we'll not sell widgets. >> i'm trougd by the precedent. >> my question to supervisor is we're basically in the city saying we're not selling any animals you know breeders ou