and she wound up at the manson spahn ranch.nkle, susan atkins and tex and myself were in the car. and getting ready to leave. and charlie came out and said something like oh, you girls, leave a sign. you know what i mean. something witchy. greta: linda in her only television interview told fox's steve dunn leavey in 1988 on the savagery on cielo. >> tex had some rope. and wire cutters. and we got to a -- he climbed -- we got to the gate and he climbed up the telephone pole and cut the wires. and we started going around the 'em bankment and after we got around to the other side the car started coming toward us. >> they had been visit being the caretaker and driving his car toward the gate. must have been terrified out of his mind. to see these people in black climbing over the gate at midnight. pulled his car to a stop. said i won't say anything, don't hurt me. greta: a delivery boy from el monte, california, steven parent, had just graduated from high school. >> watson shot him four times. two times in the face. and a couple of

and she wound up at the manson spahn ranch.n atkins and tex and myself were in the car. and getting ready to leave. and charlie came out and said something like oh, you girls, leave a sign. you know what i mean. something witchy. greta: linda in her only television interview told fox's steve dunn leavey in 1988 on the savagery on cielo. >> tex had some rope. and wire cutters. and we got to a -- he climbed -- we got to the gate and he climbed up the telephone pole and cut the wires. and we started going around the 'em bankment and after we got around to the other side the car started coming toward us. >> they had been visit being the caretaker and driving his car toward the gate. must have been terrified out of his mind. to see these people in black climbing over the gate at midnight. pulled his car to a stop. said i won't say anything, don't hurt me. greta: a delivery boy from el monte, california, steven parent, had just graduated from high school. >> watson shot him four times. two times in the face. and a couple of times in

and she wound up at the manson spahn ranch.winkle, susan atkins and tex and myself were in the car. and getting ready to leave. and charlie came out and said something like oh, you girls, leave a sign. you know what i mean. something witchy. greta: linda in her only television interview told fox's steve dunn leavey in 1988 on the savagery on cielo. >> tex had some rope. and wire cutters. and we got to a -- he climbed -- we got to the gate and he climbed up the telephone pole and cut the wires. and we started going around the 'em bankment and after we got around to the other side the car started coming toward us. >> they had been visit being the caretaker and driving his car toward the gate. must have been terrified out of his mind. to see these people in black climbing over the gate at midnight. pulled his car to a stop. said i won't say anything, don't hurt me. greta: a delivery boy from el monte, california, steven parent, had just graduated from high school. >> watson shot him four times. two times in the face. and a couple

right now we are at the spahn ranch.his is where the manson family was before the tate/la bianca murders. this used to be an old movie set. there were buildings right in here, they were all wiped out by a fire. the theory is just over this ridge, there could be grave sites. >> this is where they lived, right on the riverbed. >> reporter: kitty cox is a caretaker at spahn ranch. do you think there are bodies out here? >> i think there could be. >> reporter: the other place people believe there may be more manson victims is in death valley, the barker ranch where manson was eventually arrested. when we traveled there last year we met emmitt harder, a gold prospector who met manson and some of his followers, including tex watson. he said one story he was told by a manson follower made him believe there are bodies here. >> this one girl didn't get along with -- with manson or them at all. and they took her for a walk. they came back in a short distance and she -- we never saw her again. >> reporter: a former police detective