thank you for breaking this all down for us, rebecca spalding.ll ahead, the house has the votes. congressman diane blank will be with us after the break to outline her plans of where congress goes from this point on. this is bloomberg. ♪ welcome back. this is bloomberg markets: balance of power. i'm shery ahn. marty: i'm marty shanker. shery: we are seeing u.s. stocks gaining ground for an eighth consecutive session. the s&p 500 up half a percent. that's for an eighth consecutive session while the dow jones is up .4%. up .6%.aq also we had some positive data. jobless claims and factory orders beating expectations. let's get the latest on catalonia as separatist leaders pulled back from an immediate declaration of independence from spain. they have also announced they plan a parliamentary debate on october 9 defying spain central government. the economy minister told bloomberg in an exclusive interview that the spanish government's position remains firm. catalonia isce of not going to take place. it's out of the question. the reason is twofold. fi

and the beginning of that story that mohammed and showed us on our weather mommy spalding on her little baby's head and that got me from the second that's what he had yeah and you know that despair and variation in some of that kind of want to ask you about it because we have a lot of comments coming in i mean i heard you say that the u.n. said this is a textbook case of ethnic cleansing but then we have kells on twitter pointing out that it's worrisome that the u.n. says it hasn't still legally determined quoting that the ongoing. ethnic cleansing of the rohingya seems some of that there's some hesitation i mean you talk about how horrific the conditions were the sheer magnitude of the misery and many of the comments are grateful that we were showing that here on al-jazeera but no one thought of the you said you couldn't shoot at one point is there ever a moment where your duty as a reporter as someone who's documenting this to build awareness competes with their duty as a human to want to help the people who are there rather than documented. i would say that certainly. anybody who wou

be in spain yes it is a lot but how much how much you know when you vote and it was clearly poor spalding and poor us not both. what was the result ok and rick look really good to get your thoughts so soon after all this is just developed and broke we appreciate it that was only secretary of the international section kaplan solidarity for independence. thank you very much ok plenty's referendum on independence on october the first you might remember was marked by violence from spanish police who were ordered to prevent the vote from taking place. was. this is not the first people that this was the. end of the taking. so there really was the warning it just seems to be escalating. was. us. i was. ok where we are getting the spanish the spanish senate approving direct rule on catalonia this decision was made by the spanish senate and that was made just minutes after the cattle and parliament voted in favor of declaring independence from spain let's get into what all this could mean with joining me now in the studio so they've invoked article one five five just explain then the significance

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and our outside counsel, global law firm king and spalding. and yes, they both in tandem managed the flow of communication externally. i would say one thing -- >> i'm sorry. did they advise you to delay it for approximately four weeks? >> they guided us in our announcement on the 7th. it was four weeks. it wasn't until around the 24th that we really realized the size of the breach. and even that continued to develop from the 24th of august to the time it went public on the 7th. as you may have seen, the company came out i think it was this monday with continued evidence on 2.5 million more consumers. so it was a very fluid process of understanding the scope, size and nature of the breach. >> i'm led to believe the apache struck cve 2658 vulnerability was first publicized in early march, at which point it was immediately categorized as a critical vulnerability by numerous cyber security authorities. what do you believe is a reasonable amount of time for a critical vulnerability patch to be pushed out and implemented on all affected applications

joining me now are sid spalding, who served with the british army in the second world war, who's100 yearswelcome, sid. nice to see you. thank you very much. behind us, we have a photo of you as a handsome young man, there you are. yes. how old are you there? 24. just into the second world war? yes. i hear that you were at dunkirk. dunkirk was an evacuation. when we arrived at dunkirk, my officer said, evacuation. when we arrived at dunkirk, my officersaid, "every evacuation. when we arrived at dunkirk, my officer said, "every man for himself." which meant you were on your own. from then on, i did several things, besides crawling in the dunes, and making myself invisible, more or less, from the enemy, until nightfall. right. when it got dark. i made my way to the coast. there was a pier that was virtually blown away. i looked down the pier, and a voice said, "tommy. .. there the pier, and a voice said, "tommy... there was" a small boat, and on the boat, there was a ladder. they put the ladder up what was left of the pier, i was told to crawl down and i was put in a boat, which idid, down a

. >> you mentioned king and spalding. have you contacted any other law firm requiring the bankruptcy of equifax? >> no, sir. >> no bankruptcy protection whatsoever? >> a law firm -- >> or anyone else? >> no, sir. equifax soughtat information on bankruptcy protection for equifax? >> not that i'm aware of. >> the chair recognized the gentleman from maine. >> thank you for being here. i know you have been on the hill quite some time. a lot of these questions have been asked before. but you know, this is so important because it goes central to our economy. it really does. here we are on a progrowth agenda, we want to have lower taxes and you are regulations and trade in energy prices that are stable. then this happens. i know you folks got hacked. and i know you are doing the best you can with it. but, you know, the result of this might not be felt for quite some time. think about this, a third of our country, 40% of our country, i don't know, 60% of adults. 145 million people. 145 million. criminals now have the social secur

best forensic auditors in the business, they do this for a living we had a great cyberteam from spalding took them time at that time they did not know if data had been compromised, or what the data was. >> if we could go back, when you did find out about the breach and that conversation, with your chief information officer, mr. webb, how exactly did he tell you there had been a breach, a phone call, e-mail, in person? how did he notify you of the breach >> it was a face to face brief meeting on the 31st. at that time, he had just learned as well. so the day was very fresh to him, incident was described as a incident, not as a breach. >> is that the normal way for that information if there had been a breach at the company to notify someone is -- the cio to come and give a face to face or what is -- is that the standard operating procedure then >> congressman, at that time, we had no indication it was a breach it was a suspicious activity >> did you tell anyone else in senior management or any other members of the board of directors about the breach at that time? or is it just not until yo

. >> you mentioned king and spalding. have you contacted any other law firm requiring the bankruptcy of equifax? >> no, sir. >> no bankruptcy protection whatsoever? >> a law firm -- >> or anyone else? >> no, sir. equifax soughtat information on bankruptcy protection for equifax? >> not that i'm aware of. >> the chair recognized the gentleman from maine. >> thank you for being here. i know you have been on the hill quite some time. a lot of these questions have been asked before. but you know, this is so important because it goes central to our economy. it really does. here we are on a progrowth agenda, we want to have lower taxes and you are regulations and trade in energy prices that are stable. then this happens. i know you folks got hacked. and i know you are doing the best you can with it. but, you know, the result of this might not be felt for quite some time. think about this, a third of our country, 40% of our country, i don't know, 60% of adults. 145 million people. 145 million. criminals now have the social secur

matthew spalding of hillsdale college notes this distinction between our founders and progressives.e said, the founders believed in separation of powers. which divided and checked the government. progressives believe in a combination of powers, which would concentrate its authority and direct its actions. if you're going to create individuals from start to finish, you hear these kinds of pushes constantly. anything from kindergarten that begins at 2 and 3 years old, to schools that can take your children, your daughters to get an abortion without parental ca consent we see this over and over and over again, the experts will decide, the experts will create your children. they will shepherd them from start to finish. you have to have this combination of powers. charles maherum said there is no line that the state cannot cross. he says, quote, it is not admitted that there are no limits to the action of the state, but on the other hand, it is fully conceited -- conceded that there are no natural rights which bar the way. end quote. i'd like to think and i think our president does as we

we had a great cyber team from king & spalding with us. it took them tame. at that time they didn't know if data had been compromised, ex fi filtrated or what the situation was. >> how did mr. webb exactly tell you there had been a breach? phone call, e-mail, in pern? how did he notify you of the breach? >> surfait was a face-to-face b meag meeting on the 31st. he had just learned as well. the data was very fresh to him. the incident was described as an incident, not as a breach. >> is that the normal way for this information, if there had been a breach at the company, to notify someone, for the cio to come and give a face-to-face? >> at that time we had no indication it was a breach. it was a suspicious activity. >> did you tell anyone else in senior management or other members of the board of directors about the breach at that time? or was it just not until you told the -- on august the 22nd when you had the one call and the 24th before the rest of the board of directors? did anyone else know about the breach. >> on july 31st we did not know it was a breac

and the oral, from the 2nd of august when mandiant, the cyber security firm was hired, and king spalding was hired, a global law firm, very fluid. they had to rebuild the footsteps of the criminals, where they had been. they had to rebuild the inquiries. it wasn't until late august that there became an indication of a significant -- >> okay. so let's even take that. it still then took two weeks for you to file an 8 casino d, which in the meantime you had executives that sold shares. you had the public that was thinking nothing was wrong, was buying and selling shares of equifax. you know, would a reasonable shareholder have gotten some of this information, and said, hey, wait a minute, there's something going on at equifax. maybe i'm not going to purchase that stock. that seems like that would be a reasonable step for an investor. >> congressman, if i may, let me address the point you made on the sale. the sale by the three individuals -- individuals, two was back in august -- >> got it. regardless -- i know it was prefiled. i'm not saying that there was necessarily insider information o