for quick little one minute stories about ancient sparta. when i talk about the the warrior ethos, i'm talking about a classic old-time hm warrior, which one of the things i hope we get into questions, i would love to hear what you guys say about rules of engagement and some of the dubious gray areas. this is old school we are about now. these are for quick stories about the spartan women, the ancient spartan women. somehow it always starts with women. these stories come from a book called morelia and a part of that could called fans of the spartan women, i highly recommend it. so here are four stories. a messenger returns two starters from a battle and the women all gather around to find out what happens -- what is happening to them and peered into another from the messenger says, neither can your oldest son was killed facing the enemy. and another says, he is my son. and he says to her, your younger son was alive and unhurt. he ran away from the enemy. he says he is not my son. one story. , another message of returns from another battle in

a messenger returns to sparta from a battle. in the women all gather around to find out what happens, what is happening to demand. into one mother, the messenger says mother, your oldest son was killed facing the enemy. and the mother says, he is my son. and he says to her, your younger son is alive and unhurt. he ran away from the enemy. she says, he is not nice on. one story. second story, another messenger returns for another battle and another of purchasing and says harold, how fair is our country? herald verse into tears and his mother, i'm so sorry to tell you all five of your sons were killed facing the enemy. she says come in useful, i did not ask you about my sons. i guess you better country. he says mother, we were victorious. she says that man hath he and turns around and goes home. the third story, somehow -- i don't know how this happened, but to spartan brothers were fleeing from the enemy back towards the sea. their mother happened to be coming down the road. this may be slightly apocryphal. in any event, she sees

the other thing that is honorable this it is a choice of we were born in ancient sparta or macedonia there be no choice is the only thing there was but you have 100% of the armed forces coming out of 1% of the population. that is a real choice of ready-made but if you think about it, the values of the civilian society not knocking anything are quite opposite to the warrior ease those values. the conscious choice is pretty amazing so let me talk about of values. the paramount valued if this make a xerox star or donald trump life liberty or the pursuit of happiness is held out and rightly so. when you chose the warrior alisos, a duty becomes the value. and service asea cannot wear your hair in a ponytail or for another couple of months put the second value the greater culture at to large holds the pie is the pursuit of affluence and celebrities so somebody like donald trump is lionized where nobody will get rich in this room what the warrior culture offers is honor. i will tell you a few ancient stories today. but went under siege by the athenians, the spartans came to their aid. whene

he me of all of your loved ones, however, occurred almost 2500 years ago, when the greek king of sparta facing a massive, massive persian army took 300 of his finest soldiers to a narrow pass called promoply. there were thousands, upon thousands, upon thousands of people and knew they were going to die and he told them that when they went and the enemy says we are going to fill the air with so many arrows that it will be dark. and the spartans said, fine, we will fight in the shade. and they all died. but the casualties they took and the time they bought saved the people they loved. this is something different. for at the alamo and at thamopoly. they were soldiers, they knew what they had to do. your loved ones just happened to be on a plane. with almost no time to decide they gave the entire country an inkakuable gift. they saved god knows how many lives, they saved the terrorists from claiming the victory of smashing the american government. and they did it as citizens. they allowed us to survive as a country that could fight terror and still maintain liberty and still welcome people

moving on to the ice and the continental hockey league now weds now moscow defeated crossing to rival sparta two one registering this second victory and four games at one course or if watch the capital dobby. the nominal hosts the anomalous stars of the twenty eleven k. show season with a win and two losses with the latest two day old defeat coming by the hands of today's opponents sports talk moscow it's no wonder that we're not only motivated by garnering quick revenge as it was also the club's first home game however it was the visitors who opened the score on a power play eleven minutes into the first period through on a totally new concept. the beginning of the second period so both teams increased speeds consequently creating chances on either side of the rink but it was. a roll of the capsulized and one of a multitude of opportunities to level matters in this match. so american result in the second period left the score at one hole going to the final twenty minutes it's safe to say that it was a goalkeeper's game a dot point with nerves of steel bound to win the match for one of the s

games only one goal coming in dreary perm pitch their local park fit could not hold off the visiting sparta clearly are but a chance for earlier highlights but he misfired on the header of the fun soaking in their experience when nicklaus pereira them up by scoring as an eighty fifth minute free kick the arts in time olympic gold medalist salvaging the all important three points for the muscovites set forth to missed. stuff made solid inroads towards the top half of the table with one will win away to struggling sports acknowledge chick rock a ball and cry be outsourced or runs half an hour into their clash with f c so on the home side one nil up in summer while some you'll ever read off the crowds and much collide when he lines up for his first home game in colors against. just the two games going for consideration in the english premier league today the first of which has now ended with west brom left to celebrate their first win of the season that by doing so at the expense of new boys knowledge city former vermont peter odemwingie netting just three minutes into c locks them points for

school his third gold in this many games and just five minutes later from super double delayed to sparta the former russian under twenty one forward the spurs to the rebound after scrapping corner however it took the home side only a minute to pull a goal back it in tributes was left caringly unmarked in the spotlight go last and finished in the form but still in the first term of ireland's infielder bang it is a restored the right wants to go advantage of the americans death to cross three one spots like tributes him completed his brace across no doubt blasting him a left footed shot soon after the restarts but it's that ray of hope we seem did for the hosts after the meat recount battle but in the penalty in place through the second half and forty in moscow somebody finished. elsewhere a thirtieth minute goal by last seen a try or it was the difference as done a trust. edge to bottom side spotlight now take one mil the ivorian giant striker scoring from that side because if the visitors their sixth win seven games. slips to their fourth consecutive defeat. and elsewhere one one millet

to find that reminds me of your loved ones occurred almost 2,500 years ago when the greek king of sparta facing a massive persian army took 300 of his finest soldiers to a narrow pass called thermopoly. there were thousands upon thousands of thousands of people. they all knew they were going to die. he told them that when they went. and the enemy said we are going to fill the air with so many arrows that it will be dark. and the spartans said fine, we will fight in the shade. and they all died. but the casualties they took and the time they bought saved the people they loved. this is something different. for at the alamo and at themopholy, they were soldiers, they knew what they had to do. your loved ones just happened to be on a plane, as mr. penske said. with almost no time to decide, they gave the entire country an incalculable gift. they saved the capitol from attack. they saved god knows how many lives. they saved the terrorists from claiming the symbolic victory of smashing the center of american government. and they did it as citizens. they allowed us to survive as a country that

when the greek king of sparta facing a massive, massive persian army took 300 of his finest soldiers to a narrow pass called thermopoly. there were thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people. they all knew they were going to die. he told them that when they went. and the enemy said we're going to fill the air with so many arrows that it will be dark. and the spartans said, fine, we will fight in the shade. and they all died. but the casualties they took and the time they bought saved the people they loved. this is something different. for at the alamo and at thermopoly, they were soldiers, they knew what they had to do. your loved ones just happen to be on a plane. with almost no time to decide, they gave the entire country an incalculable gift. they saved the capitol from attack, god knows how many lives, they saved the terrorists from claiming the symbolic victory of smashing the center of american government. and they did it as citizens. they allowed us to survive as a country that could fight terror and still maintain liberty and still welcome people from all over the worl

the sparta employees shuffles them locked. the saga continues on the street.t this straw hat is peddling and this man is peddling incensed. three at $10. >> and now says $7.19. the interesting part is that many people flock to the cable car turnaround to hit of tourists unless there is a police officer. and then it is all quiet. it the most aggressive will find a captive audience and that gives the city a bad image. remember first impressions last a lifetime. in san francisco, stanley roberts, kron 4 news. ♪ >>jacqueline: 8 live look from the golden gate bridge cannot even see the bridge! a live look-we are socked in. they look at the satellite picture with the fog is searching of the coast by 11:00 a.m., the golden gate by 1:00 p.m. and is spilling over into the bay shore. cooler temperatures for tomorrow. the fog will continue to move into the bayshore, overnight. the north bay overnight and oakland and down the peninsula it will clear back, quickly. by noon, along the coast and the fog tracker even pushing it offshore. breaks of sunshine possible along the

in ancient greece a play was written about women stopping the war between sparta and athens and that and colombia and around 200 of the wives and girlfriends of drug lords were so tired of the murders they said we are embarking on the war of the kroft legs and the murder was was 26.5% then we move on to kenya in 2009, there was so much in-fighting that women once again including the prime minister's wife said we will abstain and they said what about the prostitutes and promised to pay them any loss in salary. >> if we needed further confirmation, women rule the world. >> that worked so well that earlier the belgiums spoke about using what happened in kenya to solve their conflict which has not been solved. moving on to liberia. "pray the devil back to hell" was about the role that women played, both muslim and christian women in ending the dictatorship of charles taylor, the dictator, so it's worked extremely well, t.j., maybe the politics should take a look. maybe the spouses of our congress men and women should be thinking about such a thing. >> you heard the suggestion here first,

the ancient greeks when athens was fighting sparta, the women withheld sex and eris to have knees wroteata. >> let's see if that inspires some folks in this country, as well. but it has proven to work over the years. >> nadia belichick, a great morning passport for us. we're at 39 minutes past the hour. we certainly like to highlight just rel folks doing some extraordinary stuff. trying to impact the world. i want you to meet a high school runner. his name is josh ripley. he was running at a meet last week and he sees another kid from another team on the ground and bleeding badly. the rest of the runners, they say poor guy. they keep on going to run their race. josh though, he stops. he picks the guy up. and then he runs half a mile back to the start. there was nobody really around. it was a three-mile race. has to run back to the starting line and get help. then he turns around and runs his own three-mile race. >> i had blood on my legs and arms after carrying him and a lot of people thought i was hurt. but i had to inform them it wasn't my blood and i was fine. >> i just want to say i

the great king of sparta, facing a massive persian army, took 300 of its finest soldiers.here were thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people. they all knew they were going to die. he told them that when they went. the enemy said, we are going to fill the air with so many arrows that it will be dark. the spartans said, we will fight in the shade. and they all died. the casualties they took and the time they bought saved the people they loved. this is something different. at the alamo, they were soldiers. they knew what they had to do. your loved ones just happened to be on a plane. with almost no time to decide, they gave the entire country a gift. they saved the capital from attack and they saved god knows how many lives. they saved the terrorist from claiming the symbolic victory of smashing the center of american government. they did it as citizens. this allowed us to survive as a country, still welcoming people from all over the world. ordinary people, given no time at all to decide, did the right thing. 2500 years to now, i hope that people will still remember.

. >>> when the greek king of sparta facing a massive, massive persian army took 300 of his finest soldiersss called thermopylae, they were thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people. they all knew they were going to die. he told them that when they went. but the casualties they took and the time they bought saved the people they loved. your loved ones just happen to be on a plane. ordinary people given no time at all to decide, did the right thing. and 2,500 years from now, i hope and pray to god that people will still remember. >> welcome back to "morning joe." that was president clinton speaking in shanksville. it was an amazing speech. jon meacham still with us. joining the table tavis smiley, the host of pbs's "the tavis smiley show." good to have you both this morning. >> this speech by president clinton and joe biden up at shanksville, so moving. and i always -- it was always interesting, willie geist. i always thought the first punch back after 9/11, and now this ten-year war against al qaeda. a war that for the most part we have won. the costs have been horrific. but osama b