together athens and sparta then defeated the persians. whereupon there was something that has happened a few other times, but there was this explosion of creative energy, just unbelievable so one of the opinions in this, i was just in silicone valley with people in the tech world. what do these guys invent. they invented drama. history. philosophy, socrates, aristotle, democracy, architecture look at the parthenon. can you find a better building in california? excuse me. from sparta, people looking up thing these people are totally out of control. every day they get up and they invent crazy new things. sparta was marshall society. it was essentially a seal team six. when kids are four years old check out the prospect and the other ones you kill him and then you brought him up and the males have to live in barracks until her 25 years old and they can't get married until the 30, they were all the time marching around getting ready to fight people and lo and behold they were very good at it. that's what they do. but the idea of drama and his

society without perfection for a part of the population and the sparta population is more and more out of the society. don't have benefits of the riches of fronts. >> that was some powerful stuff. we will take a break be back. don't go away. >>> will come back. i am your host mr. williams. we are listening to a form. we will go back. we did a series ofinterviews early in the show from paris . talked about the european euro. we talked about things american should be educated about and should unders dan. you cannot be empowered if you don't have this information. let's go back to the show. >>> it is very interesting, you are muslim and live in cambridge england. you find yourself in london. of someone of your faith when you hear targeting muslims instead of separating islam from t community how do you respond to the stereotype? >> i think the best way to respond to any stereotype is to live the example you want to show. tell people want you want through your own actions, through your own good intentions. do opposite of the ones who want to get in the media. they want to make ashot , inst

from sparta, people are looking out saying these people are out of control every day. crazy new things that are not comfortable to us. it was essentially seal team 6. when kids are 4 years old you check them out, they kill them. and 25 years old, they can't get married until they are 30, they are getting ready to fight people and that is when they do. drama and history and philosophy, this seemed very threatening to the spartans. they said to the spartans, the way things are the way they are supposed to be so after the war with the persians, the athenians wanted to build back their wall to protect them from invasion from people like the spartans. you cannot have a wall. we need to discipline you and be able to march there. and build this wall. why would they build this while? they didn't want to obey us. if you said what is the similarity between the us and china, extreme differences, from an american perspective the international order we helped build and provide and manage over seven decades worked very well. it involved historical terms, i give the americans high ma

athens a sea power confronting sparta a land power. how does that turn out? what are the echoes for today? okay here's the picture of the aircraft carrier. yes. we need a strong and capable navy. we need aircraft carrier submarine and surface our fleet today is 275 ships. under president reagan we had almost 600 in in world war ii we had thousands. we're not in an open war right now we doapght need thousands. we're not in a cold war and we don't need 600 but we need more than 275. we need 325 to 350 ships. that's not me -- kind of winging it, that is serious analysis. how do we get there? we have build some more and we have to extend life some but we need a capable fleet. but it's not just about your navy. it's about your coast guard and marine core, these joint partners who work together. it's about our allies and friends look at this photograph, these are pirates capture ed an somali pirates out of phillips many of you have seen that film i'm sure. these are french -- you have french marines who have landed in italian military helicopter. they refuel at ais

oak park is like sparta. upon in that. >> quentin carthen originally arrested on charges of possessionf mariand jua methamphetamine with intent to sell. as he waitedn a oup holdin cell to be processed he was charged with another crime. it came as a result of wanting to use the pay phone. >> i said, it look like you having a little trouble. kept dialing. his fifth time dialing. look like you have a little trouble, i'm after you whenever you're done. instead of saying, all right, i ain't have nothing trouble. you better be cool, know what i'm saying, i can get it like that again, you better be cool, i ain't tripping on you be cool, you ain't going to do nothing to me, you don't know who i am, don't get at me like that again. he kept talking. i stood up. [ bleep ] trying to act like he going through something like, what? boom. what's up? bam, bam. then i didn't do nothing extra, i just once he was through i just like see the police, like man, what's up? they pull me out like this is a big thing. i'm like, no, he

. >> you are the president of sparta, correct?> that's correct. >> so this is an lgbt advocacy organization. what is your message to those that you represent? >> to those out there that are elected by what may our ar may come, continue to do the job that we've always done. we are already stellar sailor, airmen, marine and soldiers. you have company commanders, submariner, special operators and all aspects of the military continue to do in a job as well as we've always done it and the military is behind it and we will continue regardless of what happens. >> what would you say to our president personally about why you are not a burden to our military and this nation? >> i would say that i've done at least 11 deployments and i've never missed out on a training cycle, i'm ready to do the job. let me on do my job and let's get pack to worback to work. >> blake, thank you. we'll continue to follow this story. choicehotels.com. badda book. badda boom. that's it? he means book direct at choicehotels.com for the lowest price on our rooms g

sue fulton is a member of sparta, a group of lgbt people who have served their nation in uniform and. army captain and joan walsh is back with me, msnbc political analyst and affairs correspondent for the nation magazine who has covered the arc of marriage equality and lgbt rights and with me here at msnbc for, gosh, from the beginning of time. >> yeah. let's begin with this. sue, you have a stored history serving in our nation's military. you married your wife at west point. >> yes. >> what does this mean the directive from the president coming via twitter? is it laughable or something serious? >> well, no one knows exactly how this is going to play out and there's no implementation plan and no time line and the chairman of the joint chiefs has been clear, we're looking for guidance on this. i think the issue is that this is a massive readiness issue. in our organization alone, we have over 600 active duty transgender folks and there are thousands, some say 15,000 in the military and we don't know what their status is now, but you don't take 15,000 trance -- excuse me, 15,000 traine

they were crying out for new stadia so these effectively come along and done that if you look at sparta they've got a fantastic new stadium as we've seen in the playoff match also in other group matches that's been great there that's in the capital as well if you look at how the developing delish nicky to all those particular stated they just needed that extra boost and it's all coming to great time so it develops russian football and also not only for the world cup and everybody coming in all the fans but also going forward as well and it's been really interesting to take a look at how both cities are preparing. and i did we travel from one to another looking at the infrastructure meeting the people lots of celebrities as well we just couldn't help ourselves we have to wait a few autographs along the way. here we are we've reached the end of all or all the sea of our confederations cup twenty seventeen previews we first st petersburg and it's on. to moscow to remember when this football din of a single along the way with politicians. even taxi drives of. the emotional journey so we got

david begnaud is in sparta, tennessee, with how this judge is defending his controversial action.ood morning. judge in white county is trying to stop prospeck tich mothctive fathers from passing that drug addiction onto their children. in doing so, he is making a heartfelt incentive with nothing but good incentives, however, the judge's critics say he may be crossing the line. >> i'm not on a crusade. i'm trying to help people. >> reporter: judge sam beningfield estimates 80% to 90% of the cases that come before him are tied in some way to drugs or alcohol. so when the local health department proposed a class for inmates at the county jail on the risk of harming their children -- >> it seemed to me almost a no brainer. offer these women a chance to think about what they're doing and try to rehabilitate their life. >> reporter: he issued this two-fold standing order. inmates could get two days knocked off their sentence if they completed the department of health's nas educational health program. he offered an additional 30 days off of their sentence if they undergo a birth control