judge spaulding? >> thank you, sharon. for the past quarter years -- four years, i have represented three guantanamo detainees on a pro bono basis. represented the last russian in guantanamo. thankfully two were released by the bush administration and they are back home peacefully living with their families and trying to reclaim the lives that were interrupted and shattered by many years of imprisonment at guantanamo. is now the mayor of his neighborhood in the eastern part of saudi arabia. he got married on the one-year anniversary of his release from guantanamo and he now celebrates that he has a little girl who is almost two years old. we keep in touch by e-mail. he has a hot mail account and he is busily reclaiming that like that were shattered between ages 23 and 28. my russian detainee -- initially there were eight russian detainees and seven were released in 2004. our client was not released. he continues to be locked up today. more than eight years after his arrest in pakistan. in mid april, after many years we fin

and i saw him in a jail cell, throwing a spaulding ball at a wall in the jail cell.ow could you not just want to help this kid? i mean, he was a baby. he was a little boy. yes, he did something awful. but we don't just throw children away. and i think -- >> larry: at that time, jayne, he was convicted and was facing what? >> he was facing 22 to life and he was going to get 22 years. there was no doubt in my mind. and he was going to be sentenced and put in an adult prison and that is the problem here. >> larry: what changed the judge? >> when i came up with a colleague, ben kunig, we filed a motion for a new trial, a motion to set aside the verdict, actually, and one of the reasons was that chavis had been tried just the week before for this murder. so the prosecutor went into courtroom one and told the jury that chavis committed this crime and took the bat and bludgeoned terry king. and then the prosecutor sealed that verdict. nobody knew what it was except he and the judge. and then they went back into another courtroom for alex and derek a week later and they told

judge spaulding? >> thank you, sharon. for the past quarter years -- four years, i have represented three guantanamo detainees on a pro bono basis. i've represented the last russian in guantanamo. thankfully two were released by the bush administration and they are back home peacefully living with their families and trying to reclaim the lives that were interrupted and shattered by many years of imprisonment at guantanamo. my saudi client is now the mayor of his neighborhood in the eastern part of saudi arabia. he got married on the one-year anniversary of his release from guantanamo and he now celebrates that he has a little girl who is almost two years old. we keep in touch by e-mail. he has a hot mail account and he is busily reclaiming that like that were shattered between ages 23 and 28. my russian detainee -- initially there were eight russian detainees and seven were released in 2004. our client was not released. he continues to be locked up today. more than eight years after his arrest in pakistan. in mid april, af

he can give you the traditional perspective, and then dug spaulding can proceed with the perspective of the actual habeas litigator. and then we want to open it up to you for questions and answers. judge lewis served on both the federal district court for the western district of pennsylvania and then for a longer period of time on the u.s. court of appeals for the third circuit. he has also served in the western district of pennsylvania and he is now in private practice. doug spalding