spec james lewis white think worked with you on this report csis salles a quote buy him saying that asking private enterprise to help protect cybersecurity systems is like asking the airline to protect the u.s. from air attack. what's your response to that? >> i'm not sure that is a delicate characterization. number one, a few to pay attention to the security needs its luxury it is something you need to do. it's part of a business process. into the system having an open system all my transactions to coordinate is once again a new thing. this is a brand new technology we've been pushing that the boundaries with and having the need to do that to meet their businesses successful people talk all the time about power stations and all these other things they don't make money if the lights are not on. businesses don't make money if they do the products can be sold securely so there's a business imperative as well. some come to the table to fully recognize the role in the critical infrastructure but clearly they are getting smarter part of georgia and the homeland security to make sure the underst