he went back, ended up running the survey group that looked for speicher lead on. he ran the team looking to kind of find him again and went to iraq again in '03. >> can you talk to me more about what happened to speicher? >> as he parachuted to the desert floor and he started his odyssey underground, he was a shoulder, -- soldier, not an aviator. he paid close attention to everything he was taught because he did well. he was caring a budget wit with, the items that they get are given to care with him that has to do languages, the american flag and it has different linkages, i annoy them. if you help me, there is a reward for me. we will exchange something for you, it could be camels, it could be a number of things. but take me back to my command. so he has that within. that was never recovered and all the things that have been recovered now, that was never found. other important pieces of gear were never found. helmet was never found. kind of a big piece. the bulk of the parachute itself was never found. all of these things are salvageable pieces, and looked to me