>> i'm so please to have with us this evening spencer mcbride associate management historian author of tonight's book "joseph smith for president." in conversation with him is the p. harry williams professor of american history at lsu and author of a best-selling book quite trashed, nancy isenberg. welcome both of you. i'm so excited to have you with us and we are all looking forward to hearing from you. >> thank you so much. good to be with you. and it's good to be talking with you nancy. >> so let's get into it.

thank you to spencer mcbride and to nancy isenberg.a delight to hear you and thank you to everyone who joined us this evening. it's the thrill to be coming to you from the actual store here in los angeles, its oldest independent bookstore, chevalier's books. i will put the link to the book one more time into the chat, and it you see a couple other questions have come in, and i will pass on this comment to you, doctor eisenberg. one of her audience members says i read your biography of aaron burr. it's interesting to think about the partisanship of memories of smith versus aaron burr. clearly we are not the only one to thought you to neck would be great in together. thank you all again. this video would be available on our youtube channel in a couple of days, and again you can order signed copies of the book through us. thank you all. have a great night. >> weekends on c-span2 are an intellectual feast. every saturday american history tv documents america's stories and on sundays booktv brings you the latest in nonfiction books and auth

. >> i am so pleased to have with us this evening spencer mcbride, associate managing historian of the joseph smith papers project and author of tonight's book, "justin smith for president." in conversation with him is the. the harry williams -- the t. harry williams professor of american history at lsu and author of the best selling book, "white trash," nancy isenberg. welcome, both of you. i'm so excited to have you with us, and we're all looking forward to hearing from you. .. more specifically, missouri and illinois, and joseph smith's run in 1844. what i found most fascinating about your interpretation of joseph smith and the mormon community is have embraced the toolbox of democracy. what i mean by toolbox is all the various legal and political strategies for pleading their case to state. joseph smith went to the white house and spoke directly with president martin van buren. this is a funny moment and your book. he dismissed van buren as short. you should've said short and fat. clearly smith was unimpressed by the president and congress. he wasn't alone. so here to discuss his w

. >> i am so pleased to have with us this evening spencer mcbride associate managing historian of the project and author of tonight's book justice smith for president. in conversation with him is harry williams professor of history and author of the best-selling book, white trash nancy eisenberg. welcome, both of you. i am excited to have you with us and we look forward to hearing from you. >> thank you so much it is good to be with you. >> and it's good to be talking with you, nancy. >> let's get into it, spencer. your book looks at the early experience. it's how they embrace the toolbox and democracy. what i mean is all of the various legal and political strategies for pleading their case to the state. joseph smith went to the white house and spoke with president martin van buren. this is a funny moment in the book. smith wasn't impressed. he should have said short and fat. smith was not alone so if you could discuss the white house visit and then address the larger issue of exactly how they viewed the role of the federal government and state power. >> absolutely. as i immersed myse

. >> i am so pleased to have with us this evening spencer mcbride associate managing historian of the and author of tonight's book justice smith for president. in conversation with him is harry williams professor of history and author of the best-selling book, white trash nancy eisenberg

. >> i'm so pleased to have with us this evening spencer mcbride author of tonight's book "joseph smith for president" in conversation with him is the tee harry williams professor of american history at lsu and the author of the best-selling book white trash, nancy isenberg. welcome both of you. i'm so excited to have you with us and looking forward to hearing from you. spare thank you so much. it's good to be with you. and it's good to be talking with you nancy. >> so let's get into it. your book looks at the early years of the mormons more specifically missouri and illinois and justin smith's presidential run in 1884. what i found most fascinating about your interpretation of justice smith and the mormon community is how do they face the toolbox of democracy what i mean by toolboxes all the legal strategies for pleading their case. joseph smith went to the white house and spoke directly with president martin van buren. he was unimpressed and dismissed him short and fast. clearly smith was on an press by the president and congress and he wasn't alone. let's discuss his that visit addre

>> i'm so please to have with us this evening spencer mcbride associate management historian author of tonight's book "joseph smith for president." in conversation with him is the p. harry williams professor of american history at lsu and author of a best-selling book quite trashed, nancy isenberg. welcome both of you. i'm so excited to have you with us and we are all looking forward to hearing from you. >> thank you so much. good to be with you. and it's good to be talking with you nancy. >> so let's get into it. your book looks at the early years of the mormon in illinois and joseph smith. what i found most fascinating about your interpretation of genesis smith and the mormon committee is how they embraced -- democracy all the legal and political strategies. joseph smith went to the white house and spoke directly with president martin van buren. he was unimpressed and dismissed smith short and fast. he would address the larger issue of exactly how smith viewed the role of the federal government and state power. >> absolutely. as i have immersed myself in the surviving documents it be

. ♪♪ >> i am so pleased to have with us this evening spencer mcbride, associate managing the story ofith project and author of tonight book. in conversation with him is the harry williams professor of american history at lsu and author of best-selling book, white trash. welcome both of you, i am so excited to have you with us and we are

. >> i'm so pleased to have with us this evening spencer mcbride author of tonight's book "joseph smith for president" in conversation with him is the tee harry williams professor of american history at lsu and the author of the best-selling book white trash, nancy isenberg. welcome both of you. i'm so excited to have you

. >> i am so pleased to have with us this evening spencer mcbride, associate managing historian of the joseph smith papers project and author of tonight's book, "justin smith for president." in conversation with him is the. the harry williams -- the t. harry williams professor of american history at lsu and author of the best selling book, "white trash," nancy isenberg. welcome, both of you. i'm so excited to have you with us, and we're all looking forward to hearing from you. ..