analyst spencer welsh joins us from i.h.s. market in london. first of all it's usually the case that investors welcome this sort of the sort of price movements on oil markets as far as consumers and businesses go in this case it's a very different picture today. yes. thank you i mean on the on the program it depends what sort of investors you're talking about so there are there are short term traders and then there are longer term investors who companies are reliant on for making business decisions and making investors now potentially traders can benefit from the the short term turmoil in oil markets that we're seeing but in terms of in terms of businesses wanting capital and needing investments and thinking about projects sanctions then the kind of turmoil that we're seeing is the worst thing that they need those 2 sort of longer term investors needs to billet say they have assurance of where they are placing their money so they basically worry that opec and russia are not going to work this out any time so yes yes absolutely if they did that