spiegel let's go to audience questions. i hate to make you all schlep to the microphone but this is on c-span. let's just start this process. >> you mentioned in the early part of 20 century they had to separate these industries in order for them to flourish. so d.c. the same the same kind of separation which advocates an internet industry? >> i think it is important to recognize that in the united states with a long-standing tradition going back to the founders of limiting constitutional power. newspapers were permitted in the 1790s on a non-preferential basis which is enormous important, the structure of the price. the telegraph was not taken over by the post office. the telephone was not taken over by the telegram and so on. this is different from the pattern european countries that didn't happen because they're a clever guys coming up with great ideas. this happened because of public policy and monopoly of public policy. and i think your suggestion about a distinction between content, it should be constitutionalize is i

minute before this interview about what is going on one thing is very clear the weekly magazine der spiegel has found out that merkel in fact was lying to parliament when she promised full revelation of all facts more than one year ago and people knew that she knew in fact are the facts twenty four hours after the massacre which in fact cost one hundred thirty seven civilians their lives out of one hundred forty two people killed just five taliban. well this sort of thing being revealed at the moment doesn't exactly help germans the german cause there in afghanistan does it we've already reported of course that the parliament has decided to extend the country's mission there in afghanistan and why is germany involved why is it is it benefiting from being involved in this conflict. you know nobody here in germany is benefiting from this. over thirty did soldiers thing is a heavy story in on the morale of the troops of course it's a heavy strain on the people of the politicians and everybody in the stories quite often we are there because of nato to put it straight there because washington or

der spiegel want to build their own drop box system. if you speak to daniel, he says it is a bit out of the way you guys think. he is offering to build it for us and to create little male box which he says would come straight to us. there are all kinds of complications. you have this document that has a nno metadata. there are real problems whatever way you turn. >> teenagers complication between traditional media and these new intermediaries. there is competition between national intelligence services. they are in the service of trying to uncover secrets. i think it will have a dynamic on that as well. that is what all our intelligence services try to do, uncover secrets from other country that will further our national security. they would prefer to do it and know about alone. and now have competition competition that will shape it in ways and alter the intelligence services and think about spying. >> if you seek wikileaks carrying a mission and carrying it out for the better, then the press, people who feel the mainstream media is no

traffic is heavy and living and dead weight spiegel. then at taking a peek get wall street.the dow is trading above 12,000. it is down just a bit. we have seen in between gains and losses this morning, so far since the opening bell about one hour and a minutes ago. there have been some mixed employment news. the unemployment rate fell last month. we also found out that new jobs remain scarce. they also say that the unemployment deal is a lot of people have stopped looking for work. the dow is down by five points now. still trading above 5000. congressional republicans say they want to cut federal spending by using $45 billion from president barack obama from ththe stimulus plan. much of the money has not been spoken for. the leaders say they will be lucky to identify it $5 billion in stimulus related spending cuts as part of the plan to save tax payers trillions of dollars over the years. >> safely is being sued over tainted eggs. they are being sued because they are claimed to not have explained to a family that aids may have had seminole up in proper information. safeway i

they are spiegel, dropbox system.you speak to daniel, as i did last week in munich, he says it's a bit harder than the old media guys thing. and he's offering to build it for us and create a little at "the guardian," a box. it would, straight to us, but there are all kinds of complications project is document, you don't have to guess such with the source but there are real problems which every way you turn. >> is competition between traditional media and the new wikileaks is also quite strangely competition with national intelligence services who are also in the business of trying to uncover secrets of other governments. and i think it will have -- that's what all of our intelligence agents did year they prefer to do it and know about themselves alone and now they have competition. competition that is going to publish it, going to shape in ways that's going to alter the way intelligence services think about spying. >> do also think, just to return briefly, given assange is a source or wears a number of hats, but is an