deeply invested to >> we going to spific ministrie vaa sout sis a senior minister of first unitarian universalist society in san francisco. we need to say a word about your founder because he is well known.>> yes, in fact i think we have the only sarcophagus on the property, we have the remains of thomas king, one of the early founding pastors of the church who served from 1860 until 1864, spending his time advocating for the states to stay a free state and not be a slave state.>> he was very young when he passed away, under 40. so that was your founder, when was the congregation established?>> in the 1850s. it was on a different location, and union square is named because that is where he would preach in favor of the union and we moved up to our current location on franklin.>> on a sunday morning, what time is worship? >> it is at 11, so you can read the paper and sleep and if are your church the same thing we would find at many of the other churches from your denomination?>> yes, there are variations, but i would say, you would probably find a lot of what you would find in most pro