. >> host: let me give you quotes spinoza and pretty cheap. at one point in the book you talk about how difficult camacho strew how radical intellectuals, those figures like spinosa and a nietzsche challenged the assumptions of an age, both essentially cast out, not only by the institution. spinoza was tried. i wonder if those figures can never be comfortable in any institution. you seem to propose that it's possible. >> guest: he longed for company. he looked back to ancient greece and rome and the fellowship of philosophers at that time. he wanted to be part of a team that he was living in 19th century europe in the the german university system, which was even less tolerant than the university system now. but it's a long similar ground that they didn't recognize they didn't give them a job. he was desperate for a job. he didn't want to be an outcast at the top of the mountain speaking to an audience of four. he wanted to be a professor at boston university but he was kicked out. so we should be aware of interpreting a romantic feel that peop

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