know it before -- the day i photographed president ford to soon-to-be president ford, the day that spiro agnew resigned, i like to say this in this room and most of you know who i'm talking about. i give a lot of lectures aat school, and it's a little dicey. i even have to explain who president ford is sometimes. i had an ongoing relationship with him starting the first "time" cover of him when he was designated by nixon to be the replacement for agnew. then "time" had we covering him. i got to know the family really well. i went skiing with them and taking pictures. it was back in the days when the magazine paid for my skiing lessons in the good old days as we would call them. but i got to know them really well. by the time he became president, i had really got along well with everybody including the kids. mrs. ford was always, you know, a big proponent of having me work in the white house. the night that president ford was sworn in, he had been president for about eight hours, and my background is i'm from a little town in oregon. i have no background in journalism or anything else. my

spiro agnew was on the attack. they made the press the issue successfully. the conduct of the press became the issue rather than the conduct of the president of the united states. why was that such an effective strategy? because it works and because it appeal-- again, that-- unless the--you know, until things become really hairy in this country, people identify with criticism of the press and usually for some pretty good reasons. you know, we don't do our-- you know, we're like doctors, you know? you go to the doctor's office, and 10% of the doctors in this country are great, and they, you know, save your life. another 20% of them, you might be a little better off by the time you leave the office. another 20%, you're about the same, 30% a little worse, 20% of them, you'll be in pretty rough shape. 10% of them will kill you. i'm not at all sure that we're different. people want their children to marry doctors. well, that's because they make more money. [laughter] it has nothing to do with saving lives. [laughter] but my point is that when the chips are down a

the intelligence that we got a there was actually link to a guy that we captured in spiro. we got him. another one of these great night operations the results in no shots fired. we pulled him off the battlefield. it led to the chief operators capture and killing of four of his deputies. ain't this a rated the haqqani capacity in terms of command control. it is a rated the haqqani command and control. that is when the accident occurred, by the way. >> do you think that the haqqanis are reconcilable? have you seen any evidence? >> this is my personal view. i haven't seen any concrete evidence. i can't speak to intelligence. my personal view is that knowing the history of haqqani and knowing what he's trying to do, the difference between the father and the son. the suns are driving the operation right now, and i do not think that they will be reconciled to if you ask me -- i don't think that they will reconcile. and i'm not sure if they even thought about doing it if they could. i really don't know what relationship is in pakistan. i don't have any insights on that. i can only

spiro. they all got to shelters. no major injuries in this state. not the same south of here. in oklahoma, cherokee, oklahoma, a stringer got an amazing video of an amazing vortex tornadeo. woodland, oklahoma, about 3 hours southwest of here, that little town of 12,000 took a direct hit from a tornado. sadly, that is where we have learned that there are some fatalities. five people are reported dead from the direct hit from that particular tornado. and what we are hearing from the emergency crews are those at least -- some of those victims are people who elected to ride out the storm in their trailer, the trailer took a direct hit. i can tell you, from our perspective, from our crew, we had to get in the basement of a particular building last night. by the time we came up, we never noticed that much wind, but by the time we came up, there was a lot of water. the streets were knee deep with water. >> eric: it's so dangerous, especially if you try to ride those thigs out. we are glad -- those things out. we are glad you are safe? >> jamie: the monster storm unleashing dozens of

that's when suddenly, suddenly, the nixon administration, john mitchell, spiro agne wfoolishly had establishedlling people less than patriotic. >> wallace was also known for his ambush interviews. >> and everybody's scat erring like cockroaches here, i don't understand. >> his legacy, an interview with malcolm x. >> are you not perhaps afraid of what might happen to you as a result of making these revelations? >> oh, yes, i probably am a dead man already. >> dr. martin luther king, jr. >> in our studios in chicago with dr. martin luther king. >> former palestinian leader yasser arafat. >> there are some that would like to kill you. >> and an interview with a man known as dr. death. >> and there's something almost goolish in your despair to see the deed done. >> that appears that way to you, i can't criticize you for that. >> one-on-one with then chinese president. >> and four score and seven years ago, our father brought forth in in nation-- >> read like a who's who of news makers. >> you must be good to me. >> why would i be otherwise. >> you would love to control this piece? >> absolutely. a

. >>> we're joined by judge janeane spiro on fox news. have you here. >> thank you. >> the emotional testimony by jennifer hudson. were you surprised that she was the first witness on the stand? >> anyone who tries cases knows the first witness and the last witness, are the witnesses that the juries are going to remember. and clearly, there's no secret here. she's a celebrity. she's jurors are star-struck. n. and she did it in a very clear and emotional way. you just heard it a few minutes ago. now, this way, she can sit in the courtroom, without fear that, you know, she'd have to be removed while other witnesses testify. it was a smart move. as time goes on, the jurors will be less focused on her celebrity and see her as another person in the courtroom. but she has to be very careful that she doesn't show a lot of emotion. >> a smart move. her sister took the stand. it's her ex-husband who has been charged in this -- these murders. while jennifer was very emotional. her sister was, too, but seemed to be more helpful for the prosecution.

that is when suddenly, suddenly, the nixon administration, john mitchell, spiro agnew, foolishly haded a climate, calling people less than patriotic... >> eric: he was also known for his ambush interviews. >> everybody has to lay like cockroaches around here. i don't understand. >> dave: his legacy includes an interview with malcolm x. >> are you not, perhaps, afraid of what might happen to you, as a result of making these revelations? >> oh, yes, i'm probably a dead man already. >> dave: dr. martin luther king, jr. >> in our studios in chicago with dr. martin luther king. >> dave: yasser arafat. >> mr. chairman, there are palestinians who would like to kill you. >> maybe they are opposing me, but... >> dave: a ground breaking interview with a man known as "dr. death." >> there is something goaolish for your desire to see the deed done. >> i can't criticize you for that. >> four score... our fathers brought forth a new nation... >> dave: and interviews read like a who's who of newsmakers. >> you must be good to me. >> why would i be otherwise. >> you would love to control the piece.

that is when suddenly, suddenly, the nixon administration, john mitchell, spiro agnew, foolishly established climate of calling people less than patriotic. >> wallace was known for his ambush brews. >> everybody's sculghting like cockroaches. i don't understand. >> his legacy includes an interview with malcolm "x." >> are you not afraid of what might happen to you -- >> oh, yes. i probably am a dead man, already. >> dr. martin luther king jr. >> dr. martin luther king. >> yasser arafat. >> there are palestinians who would like to kill you. >> maybe they are opposing me, but not to kill me. >> a man known as dr. death. >> there is something legal ghoulish in your desire to see the deed done. >> that's your opinion. >> and the chinese president. >> four score and 7 years ago, our fathers brought on this continent, a new nation. >> and his interviews read like a who's who of newsmakers. >> you must be good to me. >>. >> why would i be otherwise? >> you would love to control this piece. >> absolutely! are you kidding?! of course. i don't trust you. >> national pastime is? >> wallace found himsel

. >> university tapping ivy league for leadership, school announcing cornell university daniel spiroan of the jack welch management institute jwmi. an instructor, expert on financial management. joining us on squawk news line to tell us about this appointment is jack welch. is that jack welch management institute named after you, jack? >> yes, joe, yes. we're excited as hell about getting danny to come in from cornell to lead our school. i've been talking to you about this for a year or so. the school is really taking off. to get danny on board to lead our faculty and curriculum development is just a big break for us. >> i kind of had a renaissance moment in the last week or so. i was talking to some guys, smart guys, jack. we're talking about the country and a lot of the problems we have. everybody talks about education. everybody talks about education. they made the simple point that instead of $150,000 worth of student loans where we're trying to figure out what interest rate to charge on these things, does a later really need to sit in a class? they made the case that online you