for instance we all remember how spiro agnew attacked the media. robert kennedy had many critical things to say about the media. he thought it was failure in its promise. >> charlie: so does barack obama. >> he unleashed the vice president for his responsibilities and playing on the agnew thing. not politically, not that they were biased but that they were, you know, that they sold sugared cereals to children, that they didn't educate or inform. and the media would have been very angry at a president robert kennedy because he was taking them all. he was also a guy who fought really hard to get cigarette advertising off television and at the time ads were -- this was fun but my editor said don't do this. >> charlie: how did you do the research? you had the idea. then you realized after that night that this is something that i cannot stand in front of, i have to let it go. i have to let it go through. >> i need a bit of candor. the fact that my publisher after ten years -- >> charlie: give me back the money. this is for another book that you didn't w

spiro agnew attacked you. any number of politicians ran on platforms in opposition to jefferson airplane. justly so. absolutely. and then any number of people were saying that you were satan's children. the song goes, "everything that they say we are, we are." and we were very proud of that. that's right. when did you get the first sense that jefferson airplane was gonna make waves, that there would be some-- and there'd be some backlash to what you're doing? oh, for me, it was the second grade in military school. you knew that. i just carried on the devil's advocate. when i learned of the devil's advocate in the eighth grade or so, i thought i'd found my position in life. and just carried on. it was a natural-- we didn't have radio stations that played our kind of music when we started--or nightclubs. we had to build our own nightclub, our scene concocted their own radio stations, not searching for any commercial viability. we didn't expect to make any money. we weren't there to make money. it was almost an i

1973, as watergate had already started, richard nixon had to find a new vice president because spiro agnew had stepped down from office also because of unethical behavior. dad's name was on the list -- he had been a congressman for about 25 years from here in grand rapids, michigan. his name was put on the list with about 10 other people that possibly might be chosen as the next vice-president to replace spiro agnew. to be honest with you, we thought dad's name was at the bottom of that list. other names would have been governor rockefeller of new york, former governor of texas john connally, men that had greater national presence and dad, who was the house minority leader in congress. but the foundation was being laid in dad's life early on as he grew up in grand rapids, and the people that invested in his life, he had the image of being a straight shooter, the boy scout, the square, and when it came to making a decision about picking a new vice-president, the most important thing to nixon at that time was to make sure his choice could get through congress. there was no controversy about

at that time spiro agnew was talking about the nattering anyway bobs of negativism. richard nixon was livid of the publishing of the pentagon papers. the focus of the national review article were charms of left-leaning bias. conservatives have long dismissed this times as a hotbed of liberalism, biased beyond recommendation. in an attempt to example -- and five issues, buckley's 1970 run for the senate estate, in the antiballistic missile treaty and vote in 1969. the failed supreme court nomination of appellate -- federal appellate court judge clip meant haynesworth, and president nixon's decision to mine the harbor. and they concluded with the new standards of the times more broadly emulated. particularly by magazines and networks, the nation would be far better informed and more honorably served. that's was clear lay tribute to the journalism practiced and upsell by abe rosenthal, then executive editor of the new york time, from 1969 to 1986. a journalism based on professional detachment as much as possible, impartiality. rosen tall was termed to keep the paper str