. >> i was with spiro agnew, jerry ford and the president during his campaign.llace, sargent shriver, eagleton. >> reporter: he retired as deputy director of the secret service. all things lead back to basketball and family with the former terps champ. >> last year was our 60th wedding anniversary. and, the 60th anniversary of the team. i'm proud of them. >> reporter: he said protecting presidents and vice presidents was his major responsibility and he enjoyed the criminal side of his secret service career, including check forgery, his area of expertise. diane roberts, wusa9. >> i will say that wee with the 1958 championship team on the facebook page and on our website. we will have him on another future story on saturday or sunday and you will learn more about him. if we hear the dirt he has, he may share the dirt he has on you. >> he's got nothing on me. clean as a whistle. >> some people went for a walk on the reflecting pool. >> meet a 75-year-old man that is tougher than many people half his age. it's time for sleep number's 'lowest prices of the season' on

. >> you don't impeach richard nixon because spiro agnew is vp instead of gerald ford? kennedy: we have so much more to discuss with the panel and we'll see them later. the russia investigation isn't distracting the president from his battles on capitol hill. he doubled down on his battle for the wall. he tweeted last night. if there is no wall, there is no daca. we must have safety and security, together with a strong military, for our great people. this after schumer took his previous offer for wall funding off the table. >> the thought was if we could come to an agreement that afternoon, the president would announce his support and the house and senate would get it done and it would be on the president's desk. he didn't do that. so we'll have to start on a new basis. and the wall offer is off the table. kennedy: so which side is going to cave in the white house or democrats? joining me national review's jonah goldberg. reporter: it's wonderful to be here. kennedy: at this point i'm more opposed to wall funding than chuck schumer. this is amazing to me that he admitte

when the same prosecutors who convicted spiro agnew, he represented a senator named david duringbergeren he got indicted while he was still serving in the senate. in 2009 he represented the governor of puerto rico when he was charged with money laundering. the horrifying scandal involving denny hastert. the molst -- molestation and then hush money. tom green represents denny hastert in that scandal. if are you a significant political figure but even if you're not and find yourself criminally charged in a political scandal of any size, if somebody loves you, if somebody loves you enough, think will look into the possibility of whether they can hire tom green to be your defense lawyer. he's the head of the white collar practice at a big law firm called simply austin. and i don't mean to be rude or insulting or anything. i really don't. but it remains one of the unusual things, and maybe one of the important things about the scandal of this presidency. that so many people caught up in the scandal, even everybody, even at the highest levels, they have secure legal representation for themse

but i'll ask you -- it reminds me so much of spiro agnew in 1973 where a u.s.orney investigated him for 11 months and then one day he resigns because of tax evasion charges and gives up his office in order to avoid prosecution. i don't think you can prosecute the president of the united states. i don't believe it is constitutional to indict him but i think mueller might be working along those lines. >> let me ask you about attacked on andrew mccabe. because i feel as if -- i feel as if we've crossed a line here that we're never going to get back. does this mean that anybody who works in government suddenly everybody in their life contributes to whether they are biased about something? do you see -- >> i draw that line. >> and this is on andrew mckay based on what his wife did and is over the top and a new level of absurdity in this town. >> i draw the line at what your spouse does has anything to do with what you do. but i think it is appropriate for the president of the united states to ask his senior political apointies in the unitary executive that we have w

john lindsay of new york was forced at least half against his will to second the nomination of spiro agnew to be president of the united states after lindsay himself wanted to get that nomination, he then had to second that nomination for agnew and that was the last time a national republican of significance stood on a republican convention stage as a liberal and john lindsay eventually left the republican party not long after 1968 so we now have a world in which when people hear that you are a democrat or they hear that you're a republican, they think they know everything about you. it's not just a know whether you're a liberal or conservative, they think they know everything in 1968 had more drama and chaos and utter madness in it as a presidential campaign than anything we've seen before and what we saw in 2016 was in fact a perfectly normal standard presidential campaign with the exception of one eccentric candidate, okay? but if you look at every other moving part of that campaign, it was all operating according to the way it always had. and in the democratic side, what we were seeing

for example, his vice president, spiro agnew was his hitman on racial policy the president himself very rarely, i can't remember a single time when he personally attacked individual reporters, or when he personally attacked some institution, he might complain but not attack it. and this iske key. the reasonla that it is is key,i hear people say all the time, naturally, dan rather, you would complain about the president complaining about the president. no, with these kind of attacks, of course it is important to our reputations and you can say our living as journalists but it is vital to the country we understand this has to be unacceptable because a free, a truly-free and independent, fiercely-independent press are necessary iss the red beating heart of freedom and democracy. if we don't have it, we will not have the system of government we have now. [applause] >> so, given what you just said, you said a lot of things, i put the press piece off to the side, and what you were talking about, before like, we've never seen this, before much, the tone and tenor coming out of the oval office,