charlie: in the beginning was the original idea based on the spitzers?ianna: they say they were based on a lot of political wives. where you see her behind -- which will remain one of my favorite scenes in the entire show, her just taking this piece of lint off of his suit in the middle of this press conference, that was based on the spitzers. what happens to these people? how does she respond? it is one of my favorite scenes of her walking down the hallway and stopping, and slapping him in the face and saying -- and she tries to leave. she has nowhere to go. charlie: she's a very accomplished woman. it affected the marriage. julianna: a clearly affected the marriage and the children's lives. charlie: this is eli and you talking about running for office. >> the election is in eight months. the candidate announcement is monday. >> this monday? that's in four days. >> we are ready to go. we have plans and polling. if the election were held today, and the only candidates were you and castro, you would win by eight points. >> you think it will be me and cast

you just see that was based on the spitzers for sure. and robert and michelle saying what happens when they go into the green room. after that moment what happens to these people. how does she respond. and it still is one of my favorite scenes of just her walking down the hallway and stopping and slapping him in the face and saying then she tries to leave and there is the paparazzi. she has nowhere to go. i just think-- . >> rose: she was a very accomplished woman and how does she not respect their life even-- let this affect their life even though it clearly affected the marriage. >> and the children's lives. >> take a look at this-- . >> rose: take a look at this this is eli and you running for office. >> the election is in eight months debate in six and the candidate announcement monday. >> this monday? >> yes that is the filing deadline. >> that is in four days. >> yes, but the good news is we're ready to go. we have a plan in place we have done some initial polling. alecia, things just move faster now. they just do. >> you haved pol

the interviewers in the last couple of days probably got it easier than what i gave to elliott spitzer on your program here probably about a year or so ago because the thing is that i'm unwilling to let people characterize things unfairly and if someone's going to write an op ed on me in the question, that's fair for them to try to do it, but it's also fair for me to try to set the record straight that they're editorializing the question. >> and you've got a frown on your face. please. >> well, you know, the problem here is that rand paul has changed his mind. why doesn't he have a real answer to this? he can talk all he wants to about savannah guthrie and being a host tile interview. we all know savannah guthrie. she was not being a hostile interviewer in that instance. it seems like every time this comes up in interviews this is what sets him off. he sort of says, are you going to believe me or are you going believe your lying ears? >> or are you going to believe your videotape? >> yeah. >> his team wanted to basically run a general election strategy. they were hoping hillary clinton

. >> but to some extent she has a little bit of an eliot spitzer problem, when the crud hits the fan, which it always does. she has no reservoir of goodwill. very few people are willing to stand up and fight for her. >> davis does. she has enough people to fight for her. >> the most damaging and problem attic scandals for any did the are the ones that reenforce a pre-existing negative notion about the did the. >> can i get a quick last word in here bill? >> let lanny get a quick word. i scolded him. go ahead. >> let's all wait for the facts. i know that hillary clinton would never trade the honor of being secretary of state for any contribution. you said it right bill. you said may, and let's see what -- >> i got to get out of here. next on the run down, we will contin with the bowe bergdahl controversy. did the obama administration attempt to deceive the american public. >>> later not standing up for christians. factor's coming right back. congratulations. you're down with crestor. yes! when diet and exercise aren't enough, adding crestor lowers bad cholesterol up to 55%. crestor is

. >> i want to add i did not say it should be done but i certainly recognize why governor spitzer istrying to do it and we have failed. >> wait a minute. no no no. you said yes, you thought it made sense to do it. >> no. i didn't chris, but point is -- what are we going to do with all of these illegal immigrants who are driving on the roads? >> reporter: on the defensive, finally said she would not support drivers licenses for undocumented immigrants. on same-sex marriage her campaign now says she supports marriage equality and hopes the supreme court will come down on the side of same-sex couples being guaranteed that constitutional right. but in 2008 she and other democrats including barack obama opposed legalizing gay marriage. even last year she took a far narrower view in an interview with mpr. >> for me marriage had always been a matter left to the states. i fully endorse the efforts by activists who work state by state. >> reporter: this week a rival democrat former maryland governor martin o'malley signed gay marriage into law three years ago took aim at clinton in this unusu

the interviewers in the last couple of days got it easier than i gave to eliot spitzer probably a yearo ago. the thing is i'm unwilling to let people characterize things unfairly and if someone's going to write an op ed on me in the question that's fair for them to try to do it but it's also fair for me to try to set the record straight that they're editorializing in the question. >> what about if you are on the stage with hillary clinton, will you be cognizant of the fact that she would be a female opponent? >> i'm always polite. even in the interviews where i'm accused of being too aggressive i've never yelled or screamed. i don't get out of control. i do try to be polite. i've always treated it that way. i would treat her with the same respect that i would treat a man but i wouldn't lay down and say i'm not going to respond. that would be a sexist sort of response to say, oh, my goodness she deserves to be treated as aggressively because she's only a woman. i don't say that about anybody. okay it's a woman versus man interview. i think she has tough questions, he will ask tough ques

you that the interviewers in the last couple days probably got it easier than what i gave to eliot spitzer program here probably about a year or so ago because the thing is that i'm unwilling to let people characterize things unfairly and if someone's going to write an op-ed on me in the question that's fair for them to try to do it but it is also fair for me to try to set the record straight that they're editorializing in the question. >> what about if you are on the stage with hillary clinton? will you be cognizant of the fact that she would be a female opponent? >> i'm always polite and even in all the interviews where i'm accused of maybe being too aggressive i've never yelled or screamed. i don't get out of control. i do try to be polite and i've always treated it that way. i would treat her with the same respect that i would treat a man but i wouldn't lay down and say, i'm not going to respond out of some sort of -- i think that's -- that would be a sexist sort of response to say, oh my goodness she deserves not to be treated as aggressively because she's "only" a woman. i would neve

i thought eliot spitzer came in and found there was this link between research analyst and investment banking. yet here we are, playing this game. stephanie: stephen, what do you think? stephen: we have this equation where you have two key variables. the upstream which is what you are pulling the barrels out of and the downstream are you condense those barrels and sell. this is not an issue of any sort of like between research analysts and the actual estimates. they have no idea. we're looking at oil prices historic plunge. we are in the midst of a major retrenchment in this market. therefore, we are essentially blindly throwing darts at the wall to see what sticks and we are starting to learn what is going on. what is going on is we have refinery margins that are trading at five-year highs in some market areas. in some point in january a 40% premium on what refineries are selling as opposed to the pro -- as opposed to the crude oil, what is buying. that downstream is helping to mitigate. an integrated oil company is in far better position because they have one side of the balance she

he was retained by the state of new york to investigate eliot spitzer and he has extensive experience in capitol hill. he is the counsel to the senate judiciary affairs and intelligence committee. we cannot get better than joe in matters of prosecutions of government corruption. paul heads judicial watch's litigation department and has been with it since the inception. he has argued in front of the supreme court on behalf of judicial watch and clients. he has been a spokesman with legal commentary appearing in major media and print publications. in addition to managing day-to-day operations of the department, which lawyers understand is interesting, paul is the member of the board of directors for judicial watch. he is responsible for the work we do, like folks like me. without his expertise, all of the success you read about, we would not have. he and his legal team deserve so much credit for our good work. he graduated from the university of illinois and received his jd from au in 1990. the guests are going to speak for a bit and we will collaborate a little bit and talk amongst our

he was retained by the state of new york to investigate eliot spitzer and he has extensive experiencecapitol hill. he is the counsel to the senate judiciary affairs and intelligence committee. we cannot get better than joe in matters of prosecutions of government corruption. paul heads judicial watch's litigation department and has been with it since the inception. he has argued in front of the supreme court on behalf of judicial watch and clients. he has been a spokesman with legal commentary appearing in major media and print publications. in addition to managing day-to-day operations of the department, which lawyers understand is interesting, paul is the member of the board of directors for judicial watch. he is responsible for the work we do, like folks like me. without his expertise, all of the success you read about, we would not have. he and his legal team deserve so much credit for our good work. he graduated from the university of illinois and received his jd from au in 1990. the guests are going to speak for a bit and we will collaborate a little bit and talk amongst ourselv

my conviction after i'm sentenced to prison gets caught in a prostitution scandal, much like eliot spitzer, which if you talk to people in the intelligence community, they'll believe those guys got caught because of an intelligence sweep okay. got caught in a prostitution scandal. as the tenth circuit is investigating him, okay, and interviewing some of the prostitutes, a prostitute says to the fbi person who is doing the investigation, judge nottingham coached me on how to answer your questions. now, i think for rest of us in a normal word, that would be obstruction of justice, witness tampering and an indictment against you and you go to prison. they allowed nottingham to resign from the bench, give up his pension, he comes from a wealthy family, okay, and the u.s. attorney chose not to do anything. now i always believed that was payback and i believe the ex-parte meetings said the following. they said, you need to find a way to convict this guy and let me tell you -- why convict many he? i was a dodger fan, from brooklyn, why do they care? the answer is pretty simple. if you're the head

teamsters, it can usually have retained by the state of new york to investigate then governor eliot spitzerhe trooper gate matter. he also has extensive experience on capitol hill having served as chief counsel and staff director of the senate rules committee and counsel to the senate judiciary government shall affairs and select intelligence committee. so again we can't do better than joe's expertise in matters of investigation and prosecution, issues of government corruption. and paul orfanedes right next to me, he heads judicial watch's litigation department and has been with judicial watch says its inception. paul is a distinguished civil litigator, has argued in front of the supreme court and in appeal courts on behalf of judicial watch and its clients. is a director litigation, has been a spokesman for judicial watch is as well with legal commentary appearing in major media and print publication. in addition to managing the day-to-day operations of the legal department, which those of you who are lawyers understand always an interesting thing paul is a member of the board of directors

my first hospital visit was to a man named jack spitzer in 1979 and he gave me the best theological class i ever had. he just had a quadruple bypass. we were in new york city, he was talking to his daughter in california. he gets off the phone laughing. i said him, look at your spirit -- 1 he said i don't want to to be sad or upset. if you think good you will have good. if you think evil, you will have evil. host: good advice. thank you for your call. you made our sunday. good if you're you again, my friend. our phone lines are open. we want to share with you and picture that you may find fascinating. it is the only known photograph of president abraham lincoln after his death. this was taken on april 24 1865. according to the "washington post" it is the only photo of him after his assassination. of course, this week marking the 150th anniversary of the assassination. communications were quite different in 1865. it often took weeks to get the information, especially to roll homes and businesses -- rural homes and businesses around the country. greece and italy over lincoln's that is the p