>> spla.ve the hand for it. >> rose: to do what you do-- >> there is musicality to it. >> rose: there is rhythm, there's musicality, and there's a pitch. >> there is. some people are higher pitches. some people are pitched like that. some people pitch and catch. >> rose: do you paint? >> no, i wish, i -- >> do you create art at all other than what you do as a performer? >> i dance-- no, my mother used to sculpt but i never did gl but you read a lot? >> yes, that's my main thing, reading and sampling-- as my lovely wife says dust jacket literature. i'll be hamp way through and go, "that's enough." like reading about the crusays going, "okay. wait a minute. there's a bit of repetition going on here." and you start to read all about-- that gives me a sense of things repeating which is not good. and science, once again, of global warming. "the said the coyote accord." kyoto. that's a good car. no, latoya. no, she's a singer. work with me. >> rose: when robin returned to this table five years ago,