the national sportsperson under barack obama said i would have lost my mind if this had happened over transcripts of barack obama's calls. as a journalist that's not my concern. but the supreme court said you go back to 1971 with the pentagon papers, a leak is not necessarily problematic on the journalist's side. joe: other members of the administration said this is a bad thing to have and the president should have that ability to talk to foreign leaders. are you going after the journalists or the leakers. howie: on this question of journalists challenging actions by the president, there is a statement the president said in various places he got positive calls. >> why did the president say he received a phone call from the leader of the boy scouts and world leaders. >> no i wouldn't say it was a lie. the conversations took place. howie: now was it a phone call or personal conversation. mollie: the problem is trump had a phone call when instead he had an in-person conversation. he said the leader of the boy scouts called him and it was various leaders of the boy scouts. he's imprecise

the national sportsperson under barack obama said i would have lost my mind if this had happened over transcripts of barack obama's calls. as a journalist that's not my concern. but the supreme court said you go back to 1971 with the pentagon papers, a leak is not necessarily problematic on the journalist's side. joe: other members of the administration said this is a bad thing to have and the president should have that ability to talk to foreign leaders. are you going after the journalists or the leakers. howie: on this question of journalists challenging actions by the president, there is a statement the president said in various places he got positive calls. >> why did the president say he received a phone call from the leader of the boy scouts and world leaders. >> no i wouldn't say it was a lie. the conversations took place. howie: now was it a phone call or personal conversation. mollie: the problem is trump had a phone call when instead he had an in-person conversation. he said the leader of the boy scouts called him and it was various leaders of the boy scouts. he's imprecise