could there have been a cultural change or is there a cultural change going on in springfield, ohio?colm: i do not think the cities are an allergist, if only because the scale is off. -- analogous, only because the scalis off. in miami there were someth like 300,000 migrants from cuba who came to miami within a couple months. we are talking about a catastrophic, that is the wrong word, but we are talking about a dramatic, immediate shift in the composition of the city, a real shock to the system. springfield, a much number smaller of people have come over during a longer time and are much more easily integrated into the fabric of the community. peter: one other example in your book is a so-called zeitgeist over story when you talk about the holocaust miniseries. what was that? malcolm: this is an extraordinary story that came as a complete shock to me when i was writing the book. up until the end of the 1970's, the holocaust was strangely absent from any discussions about world war ii, which seems hard to believe but if you go back, one of the things they do is went back and reread t

they had never been to florida, never had been to a historically black college and they were from springfieldlinois, my dad and champaign, illinois, my mom. so it was a totally different experience for them. david: let me ask you how you got out of florida because you were born and raised there, but then where did you go to college? >> there was a little by way. my dad got bitten by the jazz bug, and he moved to new york city so he could pursue that. my parents got divorced because my mom did not get bitten by that bug. so then we returned down to their home state of illinois. so i ended up going to high school and then college. roosevelt university and university of chicago. david: so you got a phd in library sciences. are there many library schools anymomany no longer exist but ae there still schools in the united states? >> about 56 library schools but now they are mainly called information science schools, schools of information science or information management. university of chicago school closed and the columbia university closed because their programs were deemed a little too academic

they were from springfield, illinois, my dad, and champaign, illinois, my mom.t was a totally different experience for them. david: let me ask how you got out of florida, because you were born and raised there, but where did you go to college? dr. hayden: there was a little byway there. my dad got bitten by the jazz bug. we moved to new york city so he could pursue that. parents got divorced, because my mom did not get bitten by that bug, so they returned to their home states of illinois. i ended up going to high school and then college in chicago. david: you went to college ultimately where? dr. hayden: roosevelt university and university of chicago. david: you got a phd in library sciences at the university of chicago. dr. hayden: yes. david: are there many library schools anymore? the one at the university of chicago no longer exists, but are there still a lot of library schools around the united states? dr. hayden: there are about 56 library schools, but now they are mainly called information science schools, schools of information science or information man

so don't do springfield. we're eating the dogs, the people that came in or reading the cat. and there are eating zip pets of the people that live there. reading the dogs indicates reading the pets. i swear to really eating the rats in new york, they will take the life of the child in the 18 months. a nice month that even after going coast natal abortion and usa appraising me, it is it can kill your kid after it's born. that's kind of like the sparked or kind of business. so you know, the week is boy over the cliff, but yeah, let's not forget, you know, you know, things start to turn around for the big dawn, you know, promptly after he got shot, remember, and no one's. he was shot ones, but they tried to shoot him twice. and it's funny. they have no delay. the file of the guy that actually tried to shoot him a 2nd time. interesting. i wonder why people just sensed it, you know, 12 on the internet did me, of course, with the b, e loan in the background. and let's have a look at, from interacting with us and watching what was happening here on the meals we, we kinda, we knew wh

so don't do springfield. we are eating the dogs, the people that came in or reading the cat, and there are eating zip pets of the people that lives there. reading the dogs indicates reading the pets. i swear to get 3 eating the rats in new york. they will take the life of the child in the 18 months, a 9th month that even ask a girl in coast natal, abortion, and usa appraising the machines. it can kill your kid after it's born. that's kind of like the spark are kind of business. so you know, the week is boy over the cliff, but yeah, let's not forget, you know, you know, things start to turn around for the big dawn, you know, promptly after he got shot, remember, and no one's i think he was shot ones, but they tried to shoot him twice and it's funny. they have no delay the trial of the guy that actually tried to shoot him a 2nd time. mm hm. interesting. i wonder why people just sense that, you know, trump on the internet to me. of course with the b e loan in the background. and let's have a look at, from intera

the old oh three springfield which them less firepower at the point of attack fuller did not perform up to expectations in the in the fight hill 192 enormity all that is the prelude to send low and whatnot and. he gets relieved to command but. he was fairly tight with troy. with troy middleton, who's the eighth corps commander, and so fuller stays around is this sort of tangential kind of supernumerary colonel doing nothing and whatever. and so in a regiment opens up with the 110th after hurricane he gets that regiment. so he comes to the regiment and the guys know him and. they don't have a particularly positive impression of him. they think of him as this rear echelon guy. and infantry soldiers never really like that, obviously. and so had not by the time the bulge happens been able to to really kind of get know his people and connect with them the you might have wanted so so we'll come back to the map perhaps we hope well there's this. the the so so if you would let's a little bit about about the the 28th initial initial day you will of combat. and, you know, fuller has a huge tas

with this ultimately before it's said and done is going to be the ice, major ice event here across springfieldon of downed power lines and behind this really, really cold air, so, power down and then cold air could mean a tough situation for folks. molly: all right, adam klotz with some more tv time ahead this week with our tv team, griff. griff: coming up, president biden will award the presidential medal of freedom at hillary clinton and george soros. we'll bring it to you from the white house in moments. last year, those viruses hospitalized nearly 1 million people 65 and older. so if someone you love is older, talk with them about vaccines. griff: new orleans will soon face a lawsuit in a survivor of the new year's day attack

because you close the court and the state of massachusetts raised up a local militia, and went out to springfield and fought a very brief engagement with shays, these supporters, so called sights, about 1,200 of them. it's kind of one and done on that rebellion. it's very quick. you have one volley, they were more or less disbursed. but if you look at it again from the standpoint of nationhood, you are concerned about this kind of thing. if you're nationalist minded at all, and we're going to talk about some of these nationalist minded folks, that probably doesn't bode very well that people are taking matters into their own hands. the state of massachusetts, a bit of a demonstrator of the impotence of the national government. it appeals to the federation congress, and asks them will you raise troops to come help us suppress these incendiaries, these problems, and in effect, the short answer to that was no, but the basis for the answer of course was because they didn't have the authority to do it. right, so massachusetts is asking for help from a national government that says they can't, because f

close of the court and the state of massachusetts, which raised up a local militia and went out to springfield and fought very brief, engage with shays. these supporters show so-called shea sides right about maybe 1200 of them. so it's it's a kind of one and done on that rebellion. it's very quick one volley they were more or less dispersed. but if you look at it again from, a standpoint of nation hood, you are concerned about this kind of thing. if you're nationalist minded at all. and we're going to talk some more about some of these nationalist minded folks. and but probably doesn't bode very well that people are taking matters into their own hands. i mean, the state of massachusetts, again, a bit of a demonstrator of the impotence of the national government. massachusetts appeals to the confederation congress. and ask them, will you raise us troops to come help us suppress these incendiary these problems. and in effect the short answer to that was no but the basis for that answer, of course, was because they didn't have the authority to do it. right. so massachusetts asking for help from a

thrust into the national spotlight after former president donald trump claimed illegal immigrants in springfieldis is like when a guy comes up to you. and he's like my sister's cousin's dog. so that's where this conversation kind of started. cats are coming into their own in this election. it is a face off. in philadelphia, vice president kamala harris and former president trump. kamala, for whatever people think of her is good at like having down the talking point and staying on message as opposed to trump, who did a lot of trumpy things. she copied biden's. plan and it's like a four sentences like run, spot run. clearly, kamala had practiced things that she knew would set him off. people start leaving his rallies early. out of exhaustion and boredom. people don't leave my rallies. kamala baited him by talking about his rallies, and then she just gave him back the. ball and he was like, oh, hell no. nobody leaves early. and the migrants are eating cats. they're eating the dogs. the people that came in, they're eating the cats. they■re eating the dogs. they're eating the cats eat the cat, eat th

problem historically with not only did you have the wilmington riots of 1898, then you had the springfield, you had plessy versus ferguson that happened in the supreme court in 1896 and then you had woodrow wilson allowing black people to get some of them to vote for him and once he got in office in 1914, he rolled back federal legislation on immigration. he played birth of a nation, that lauded the clan and said the black leaders doing reconstruction were bad for the country and were like vampires sucking the blood out of our politics and our economy. what we are seeing is not un- american. it is in fact upon the american story and then when you get to the 1960s it happens again when dr. king is organizing poor black, poor white folk and poor black folk into the coalition that the racist oligarchies always feared, they come up with another plan called the southern strategy and said the goal would be positive seshan, intentional division of the country to ensure that black and white and brown, poor, low- wage folks do not vote together and they said if we get caught we denied. we will actu

the 36 year old black woman had called 911 for help to report a possible prowler at her home in springfield. >> i heard somebody outside. >> we didn't see nobody. >> nobody's out here. >> the body camera footage shows the deputy continuing to interact with massai. but things take a turn when she goes back to check on a pot on the stove. >> your hot, steaming water away from my hot, steaming water? yeah. oh, i rebuke you in the name of jesus. >> i shoot you in the navy. you better not. i swear to god i'll shoot you in your face. okay. i'm sorry. drop the top. drop the pot. >> three shots were fired. killing massai. no intruder was found. the deputy was fired from his job and charged with first degree murder. he pleaded not guilty. at number four on the list, the presidential historian who correctly predicted nine of the last ten presidential races, makes his pick for the 2024 winner, vice president kamala harris. >> have you ever changed your prediction? >> i have never changed my prediction. once i've made a final call. >> unfortunately for allan lichtman, this year's pick did not pan out f

we don't go in and consciously say, let's make this a buffalo springfield song. it's just that seems to be the way the songs end up sounding just another manic monday. >> wish you were sunday. >> there's always a certain amount of people who will never take women as a group seriously. >> i mean, it's run by a very chauvinistic, unimagined recording industry. yeah, right. >> so we concentrate on the music. you know, we don't really worry about those things. we just keep writing songs. i think that there was a little bit of an attitude like, they're okay for chicks. they can play okay for girls. we didn't understand why our gender mattered or why it defined us. >> people magazine this week says it'll take an act of congress to keep this woman from becoming a mega whitney houston. how will i know if he really loves me? >> i say a prayer with every heart, whether she was doing a dance song or she was doing a ballad greeters the love of. her life. >> it kind of stopped you in your tracks because you just couldn't believe that one woman could be blessed with that much.

safe humanitarian zone as that is my last thing in the southern side of garza was 11 typically in springfield. so remarkable is that there has been to pretty much concentration on targeting police because especially that often verifying, we managed to know that to the victims were to allow us to work key officials in goals as police and elsewhere. also in district. uh, the escalation did not come to an end was 7 civilians confirmed tubes in july. the phillips following as it miss riley attacked when a group of civilians and shut the rector. jacob reports are still coming, suggesting the killing of 3 people who work in the central market of a shot the refugee comes to since and the hours of this morning. start talking about safety. palestinians have been killed and this to be assigned. what, how is this caitlin? but she's caleb for today's session that continues to take place across the gods as troops on me, but no sign of a bad thing for the course of the miniature peroration. and even the monetary and soul is deepening day in the out due to such attacks as it has become quite familiar routin

reading a pretty good book about that called the lincoln on the verge is trip from springfield to washington. wow, wow. the country changes over time. the season, the era. yeah okay and this would taft wrote the supplement taft who had been president of the united states it is now chief justice of the supreme, writes in a letter to his colleagues. otherwise he says i hope appointments new and homes is on that court and brandeis is on that and he says i hope that the new appointments course know something about law. he says it's a legal job good point he says but i hope they also know something what he was the higher politics. hmm and just what is that? well, that's what i've been trying to figure out. i mean, and it is different on the supreme court than on the lower courts. it is. are judges on court aware of what people thinking? of course. of course there are. and how does that affect opinions? when i get the to that, i don't know what paul point meant and. yeah, but is it there? yeah. and is that just doing things politically. no. and does it you know, often politically. no. what does it

we're now in an area where hard working immigrants in springfield, ohio, are being accused of horrible things in sort of xenophobic attacks. these communities, all of these, you know, are kind of calling deeper, darker moments in american that are kind of coming back out again. the discourse in some sense that when i say that saved about movement, i mean that very literally in the sense that all of these things started happening again becoming regular part of american political discourse. right. as these negative academic results were completely obliterating kind of the original purpose of modern voucher systems, which was to move the needle on student test scores. yeah, well, you mentioned bed mass. i have. and kind of in the same vein as my last question. you know we are watching things happen so fast in and bad math coming out of groups like goldwater institute tend to so rapidly that i think it even me casey point last week we before superintendent horne came out with a press release on tuesday saying that you know somehow the vouchers had saved the state money. there was a $4 mill

. >> let me just say that these exact arguments were being made around the situation in springfield, where temporary protected status for haitian immigrants meant that folks were doing jobs in the manufacturing sector are there. things were great when those people were being labeled with disgusting racist calumny about how they were eating cats and dogs, right? all everything you said there, the thing that sort of indicates is charlie's version of this argument, which i think is like a much more sort of policy specific, fact version, the version that unfurled on twitter was just full of, like the most shocking, racist, racial essentialism on both sides. you have vivek ramaswamy basically lecturing americans, the way that white people lecture black people about what's wrong with their deficient culture and why they're not that it's not genetic what it's like, you people don't have the right cultural norms, which people understand, you have a guy calling americans a slur, the r word, and elon musk a green, and then you've got a bunch of white people talking about how indian americans a

and and for cops and firemen and worcester, springfield and boston and people who enjoy the party, they you know that that means nantucket sound and horseshoe shoals and and they ought to be able to to visit those areas which are publicly owned and, have been publicly invested for generations without going into an industrial site. we can put those wind farms there. we should just put them five miles further out the way that the competitors, all his competitors are doing. you have quite a relationship with indian point nuclear power plant. and in your book. you talk about the nuclear regulatory commission. our next guest is niels diez, who's the chairman of the nrc. and you talk about a suit that you filed. you do not feel that the nrc is protecting indian point nuclear power plant above, new york city very well, is that correct? well one of the chapters in my book deals national security and how the president, in concentrating spending the money in iraq and the american public to make its contribution to national security, done almost nothing to require corp contributors and the chemica

host: we will go to jim in springfield, independent.aller: a question that has been stuck in my head during this whole process and i have followed the case closely, it seems to be fraught with if president trump is successful in overturning this conviction in the next two or three years, does he have recourse against alvin bragg and also does he have recourse against judge merchan for either prosecutorial misconduct or election interference. i would love to hear your opinion. guest: i think the president certainly hasn't done that. if he finds that there was evidence that was hidden or some other nefarious purpose, you might be able to go after alvin bragg or people in his office for prosecutorial abuse. but this case was tried and there were motions dismissed in the judge ruled in their been some intermediate appeals considered and some of the judgments judge merchan entered in the trial will now have an appeal from the trial itself and the sentence imposed and this will be an unconditional discharge. i don't see off the top of my head

wane is next in springfield, missouri, independent. caller: good morning to you.ld say i heard people talking about judging trump. i don't feel like it is right to point at people but look at their own lives. none -- nobody is perfect. his was just the news and everything. my merchant voted for him before she died. i used to live in new york and i see the floods and i feel sorry for them and i see the force in los angeles. but they had fires before in the past in california, why didn't they preplan? even though it was a week ago but they would have the weather explicit backed up so when they come on they would have the supplies because a lot of people they are not movie stars, they work hard and they can't afford to rebuild their homes with the economy. host: john is in harrison city, pennsylvania. republican. good morning. john, are you with us? we go it james in ohio democrat. caller: hello. host: go ahead, james. you are on the air. caller: i'm 95 years old and i have lived through 20 some presidents of the united states and i'm a veteran of world war ii and ko