part of the solution i think the science community need to pay more respect to practitioners dr springman just on the issue of. when people tick things into their own hands and perhaps do things in a in a mob mentality that the other wouldn't otherwise do so themselves leading into issues such as eco terrorism. do you are you aware that. if there's so much being spoken about something that there's there's a fear growing among the youth that it's making them tense it's making them anxious and people might move away from water very good subjects to delve into because they're afraid that their their children are just going to be led towards one way almost like a religion. i think those children really have a good reason to be on the street and. applaud all those protests that are going on at the moment what we have seen is really a failure of politicians to make decisions that get to a place where we combat global warming and we are where we have a healthy and sustainable world what those protesters very often call for is public assemblies deliberate deliberative dialogues and i think those

please this is too important and we must get over this computer which is widely held at the moment dr springman. you know i agree we need to talk to each other we need to be respectful with each other and this debate should surely be guided by science if it were to be guided by science you wouldn't have statements like we need to eat our own children i would say because there are good good pieces of research to take into account different population projections for example so that can be dealt with easily by having a good and open debate with the scientists who work on those issues what i hope that's what we've just had thanks very much both of you for coming on the program we've been speaking to patrick holden patrick farmer and former director of the sustainable food trust dr markel springman senior researcher on environmental sustainability to the writer of live health excuse me they university of oxford sorry but up the tree thanks both of you for coming on the program this hour. and that is where we have to leave it because the selection of great r.t. shows get their start in moments so yo

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