. >> we know -- erin will stand by as we see members there, there's jean spurling, the president's economic adviser, a member of the cabinet, the director of the national economic council. once he's out, it will just be a moment or so before the president himself is introduced by the deputy sergeant of arms of the congress. gloria, $450 billion, that's what we're told that this package the president will announce tonight will cost. and republicans, no doubt, quickly will say this is just more of the same old same old, the economic stimulus package that they say didn't work two years ago, this is not going to work now. >> right. >> they'll dismiss it. >> to follow up on what david gergen was saying, the republicans are going to say it's too large, the folks at the white house understand that the republicans are going to say that. but they also have a democratic constituency they're trying to speak to as well, wolf. so i think what they're optimistic about, what jessica was talking about, is getting the, say, extension of the payroll tax cut for employees as well as employers. that would be s