>> caller: well problem is that is through the lens of spygate, and once you've had that happen to your legacy to your franchise, everything you say going forward is just going to be looked at with more scrutiny. had the league not destroyed the tape. had you not been fined the highest amount of money in league history, had you not had the admission of guilt to cheating before perhaps this does get swept under the rug like a mistake of atmospheric pressure whatever but the franchise brought this on themselves. they have to deal with the fallout any time that you're in a position to be called a cheater. you have to address those accusations because you've been caught and admitted it before. >> can we talk about the second half? fact is fact? second half of the game balls were inflated to the regulation standard for the league. should we take that into account as we discuss this and as we wait for answers from the nfl? >> caller: you know, anyone who covers sports tells you that no game is decided by one play or not even necessarily one player. no team sport, and so it's very difficult to

the big incident was spygate.re was no other cheating involved with the patriots since september of 2007. they got caught. they were penalized. they lost a first round pick. bill belichick was fined $500,000. there was an erroneous report that the boston herald put out in february of 2008 that was dismissed and the herald took the unprecedented step of issuing a front page and back page apology saying we were wrong. but i think a lot of people get it twisted. they think that the patriots were guilty of taping the st. louis rams before super bowl xxxvi. the one thing that stands out, rachel is spygate and that's the issue. >> i want to get back to something bill belichick said. jim, he said that part of the issue, too, is how they prepare and treat the footballs before they even bring them to the officials. he talked about rubbing them with a substance that could add artificially one extra psi. have you heard about anything like this before? how does something that you treat a football with inflate the air inside t

but you know look the patriots they paid their dues for spygate.y actually went on to have a winning record after spygate. i think they will be just fine. it's only an allegation at this point. i know you can't get yourself together. >> i'm trying to save footballs and not get in trouble through this whole story. but you went there. >> yes, she did. >> i did go there. i'm sorry. i think this is the first investigation of this kind in the history of the nfl. i don't know if koi knows or not. i never heard of anything like this actually being investigated. >> even in college football usc was accused of it and i think they were found guilty of it of the tactic but when it comes down to it they could have been using a wiffle ball out there. the patriots completely dominated the colts. i don't think anything more will come of this. >> okay yeah but explain the mechanics here because i would think that if there is something the matter with the footballs, and it's a benefit to the pats isn't it a benefit to the colts as well? no? >> well each team has the

look at what spygate was. they were filming opposing sidelines and trying to get happened signals, trying to get a competitive edge. did it work? probably a little bit. on a scale of one to ten, it probably worked for about one. when they came out with this there are a lot of other teams that did that. they also videotaped sidelines trying to get the edge. the thing about the patriots, sometimes they push it to the limit. when you look at these things i think a lot of people stop to say stuff. when you're king of the mountain and you've been to five super bowl appearances and headed to your sixth, you've got a massive bullseye on your back. that's what the new england patriots have on them. >> pushing it to the limit is one thing. pushing it beyond the limit is oochlt you said spygate only helped them one on a scale of one to attorney. i heard people say in the deflated footballs, in the first half using the deflated footballs, only up 17-0. in the second half when they were using regulation they were up 28-0.

they got caught in spygate in 2007. franchise got in trouble, lost a draft pick. i think a lot of folks would like there to be an excuse for why their teams have lost so often to the patriots. i don't think the underinflated balls is the reason. >> that was the steve kornacki argument earlier. >> rand how much damage does this controversy do to the patriots organization to the sport of football which has had a lot of controversy of late and also to the impebding super bowl? >> well reactions have been varied. there was a sports caster who said he believes if it's proven the patriots did, in fact underinflate these balls purposefully, she believes the sanctions should be more strict than they were in bountygate. of course, there were allegations of payments for players to injure other players. to me i think you're taking quite a leap there to say they should be punished further for underinflating balls than for trying to hurt a human being. one thing that is clear, we certainly love talking about the patriots. if there's

and evidently you look back at spygate, belichick was fined, they lost draft picks. apparently that was not enough of a deterrent. it really bothers me as a guy who spends some time there, now, i wasn't there on one of the super bowl teams, but when this stuff happens, it's such a minimal advantage, yet when you get caught, everybody's able to say, look, they're cheaters, and it really minimizes the accomplishments of all those guys that were there during the run earlier. or even with what they accomplished this year. it's a shame. >> if you're a patriots player, my sense is if in fact this was done purposefully, a small number of people knew about it. if you were one of the people on the squad that had a blowout victory on sunday, somehow that victory that you worked very hard for is discounted in the public mind. you were never consulted on that, i would imagine. >> it's a terrible risk/reward ratio. the reward is minimal. brady actually played better in the second half, and they won 45-7. so the reward you get out of doing it is very small. but the risk, if you ge

it was a half million dollar fine with the spygate and loss of a draft choice. indeed and this is a high bar now, if indeed the league can prove culpability by the organization by bill belichick of an organized movement to -- or action to circumvent the rules, i think it has to be north of the last sanctions. to that end, to me it's like there's tax evasion and tax avoid answer. we all try to minimize what our tax burden might be and do it legally. but if you have tax evasion and you actually cross that line that's the key here. everybody tries to get a competitive edge. but if you've literally crossed the line, the legal limits of the nfl, there has to be a sanction. >> coach prediction, who's going to win sunday? >> well, boy, i tell you what i can't remember a super bowl more of a tossup more of a pick 'em if i had to choose the advantage may go to the seattle seahawks. >> thanks, coach, so much for being with us. >>> coming up, he doesn't know when to stop. michael moore doubles down on stupidity. his latest comments about snipers. and later, the warnings, t

all of the talk about deflategate and the controversy, if you see how aggressive they were after spygatethey will be in that mind frame. they feel disrespected. i truly expect it to be one of the best games that tom brady ever had. >> what are the match ups you're looking at? >> bill belichick does an excellent job as always of taking away the thing you do best. he will try to commit his resources to stopping marshawn lynch, i think you have a read option offense, when they're able to make plays with their feet and their arm, the problems they present, they break so many tackles, it sounds so simple. i think the team that is able to run the ball the best in this game will have the advantage, i don't see either team beating the other team with their passing attack. >> both of you come from great backgrounds, but have you ever in print, or in the electronic media, ever covered someone as interesting and introspective and outgoing at richard sherman. >> there is only a few athletes that come to mind, richard sherman is very jooutspoken. we live in a time when athletes are afraid to express

look at spygate. he punished the patriots in 2007.lichick, fast forward, suspend sean peyton for a year. suspend a wrath of players. some of them are vacated by his predecessor. and then the ray rice scandal, there is a outpours of criticism. >> that is one interesting part is people say we're only here because it's the patriots. it's also because of the dwindling credibility of spy spygate. it doesn't just hit you all at one time it's piece by piece by piece. you look up and you're goodell and now you have to answer for footballs. >> today was media day. marshawn lynch famously does not like to talk to the press. he usually gives them the same answer over and over again. one espn reporter said he was threatened with a half million dollar fine if he didn't show up, so he showed up and here is how he did it. marshawn lynch, it's your show take it away. i'm going to answer with the same answer so y'all can shoot if you please. i'm here so i won't be fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't

if you're comparing bountygate or spygate we forgot about spygate pretty quickly.tention spans as nfl fans. in the long run, in the week leading up to the super bowl. we might not consider this as serious. >> we have short attention spans, coy, but we expect bad behavior at this point from the nfl. >> that's an awful thought. >> we expect bad behavior. look at the string of things that have happened. coy, are you surprised we haven't heard from roger good snl. >> not yet. think they are going to investigate. get to the bottom of the story to see if they can get hard evidence. i don't know if we're going to hear a decision as far as a penalty. now the rule book says that $25,000 fine at least if someone is found guilty of tampering with the footballs in that way. i don't know if we'll hear an announcement as far as the penalty until after the super bowl. so not surprised that we have not yet heard a decision. but to the point of us forgetting about spygate. i don't think that's the case, the reason is that this is such a big deal this would be a second infraction of

get caught cheating again roger goodell will come down on them very hard and he was not happy about spygateefore and that's when they were accused of taping coach's play calls. >> john and keith answered today on the facebook page. if you want to see the rest you head over to the nbc 10 facebook page and search nbc 10 on facebook and like our page to get updates in your news feed. >> i like to see the interaction with the chats. >> making sure the biggest event is legal. it all comes down to the refs but in the wake of deflategate, what are they doing to make sure everyone follows the rules? my colleague tim jones was there and he spoke out about what he learned ahead at 5:55. animals watching for snow moving in for parts of the area and i'll show you how much you can expect and some cold air moving in just to start your weekend. that's coming up. >>> plus a baby burned to death and police say it was at the hands of her own mother. the 911 call is revealing more about the moment after the tragedy. thank you, cable for the slower internet upload speeds. for fewer video on demand titles. than

a scandal known as spygate. $250,000 and lost a first-round draft pick. >> i spoke with rachel about whether there's any question balls were intentionally deflated. she says no, it's a given. >> reporter: the question is who and who asked them to do it. how involved were the teams? tom brady, the quarterback of the new england patriots is known for being very particular. if that ball was not a standard football you have to think that he would be aware of it. did he direct it? that is going to be the question. can they prove that he directed it or his coach directed it? that's going to be the question. somebody's going to have to talk. we don't know if that's going to happen. >> is that why you believe the team at this stage doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt as we wait for this investigation to continue? >> reporter: well the benefit of the doubt, that expression means we're giving them the benefit. they don't deserve it because they have cheated in the past. the question is now, are we saying they're ghil

i don't think this is going to be as damning for them as spygate. might be some suspensions out of this. it is bad for the nfl now because it is dragging on this is going on and on. i understand they want to complete the investigation and get all of the facts in line but the longer this drags on it is just worse for the nfl. it is certainly not as bad as the domestic violence scandal, obviously, but it is bad. nobody wants this to go on when the teams start arriving sunday and monday in phoenix. another week of conversation about this? >> well especially the teams are coming down media day is a huge day, and you know it will be all about deflate-gate. >> i think so. >> appreciate your perspective. thanks for being with us. >>> winter storm watches up in several states now. huge storm tore the northeast, and dumped record breaking snow in texas. what you can expect for the weekend up next. >>> disneyland measles outbreak keeps spreading as health officials issue a warning for anyone not vaccinated. stay away from the parks. we will have an update fro

they destroyed all the tapes linked to spygate so something about this aura of skepticism with fans and with the media not just with the patriots but also now the nfl treats the patriots because they're kind of seen as like the crown jewel if you will of the nfl and some people think tom brady gets trited edtreated differently than other quarterbacks. so 2007 has almost everything to do with it but then also you have the added part where is tom brady is seen as being treated differently in the media than other quarterbacks and players. >> l.z. i read the full transcript of that, you know tom brady press conference on thursday saw part of it. he was asked tough, tough questions over and over again. do you think he's getting special treatment or are people hoading him to a higher standard? >> you have to remember this controversy began sunday at halftime. tom brady was in front of us talking about this and detailing till thursday after his coach's press conference hours after his coach's press conference. i don't think you need to hire olivia pope to prep somebody for questions when that

. >> reporter: the patriots and belichick were fined for spygate in 2007. and the head coach says he didn't know anything about the ball controversy until the day after. >> coach belichick said that he didn't know anything about the ball controversy until the morning after. >>> now to new developments in the michael brown shooting case. it's been two months since a missouri grand jury declined to indict former police officer darren wilson in the shooting death of the unarmed teen. now, the federal government is heading in the same direction. the justice department is not expected to recommend charges against the police officer. and the times is also reporting that attorney general eric holder declined requests by officials alongside prosecutor mccallau that way it wouldn't seem as though they reached their decision together. holder is expected to make a official comment before he leaves office. his successor's hearing begins next week. the attorney for the brown family released this statement saying, quote, they will wait for official word from the justice

you have to wonder the patriots were punished a few years later for spygate and now with de deflategate, you wonder if the patriots were cheating. >> were they cheating? that is something i can't answer. the commissioner with his little investigation, the evidence was whatever i don't know. but you look back on it as we have, and there is a lot of plays we would like to have back. >> he caught up with former players. he does not think that marcus mariota is worth a big price. >> you have to give up a lot to get mariota. we have seen what that can do to a football team. i think you go back to nick foles. he will clean things up and learn from his mistakes. >> and we also caught up with nick foles today one on one. i have to tell you that seattle brought the rain with them here. it is supposed to rain for the next two days and it started tonight, seahawks weather for the super bowl. maybe they will have the roof open maybe not. i'm john clark, back to you. >> all right, john. >> and the rain not stopping the party at all out there. live coverage of super bowl xlix at noon. >> snow showers

he just mentioned spygate.t was when belichick got busted for spying on another team's defensive signals. he got fined a half million dollars. okay. i kind of want to set this up with the attorney and the judge and one of you pick the defense, and one of you be the prosecutor in all all this, okay? >> oh, god. [laughter] >> yeah. because, honestly, now it comes down to something that matters about the future. i mean do you look, do you look to do something about this game? do you kick belichick out? what do you do? >> well, if you're hoping i'm going to be the defense attorney, you've got another thing coming. [laughter] >> it's all on you, babe. >> first of all, i have to tell you as a matter of disclosure i'm a dolphins fan, okay? >> i'm sorry, by the way. >> yeah. not nearly as sorry as i am. [laughter] but as far as the fought rots are concerned, this is now a pattern. he got the name, beli-cheat, because of the reputation for ding things like this. the spying incident happened from 2002-2007 where they wer

wouldn't be giving it this much discussion it is the patriots, it is the team that got caught during spygatealing signals to jam the signals coming into a opponent's headphones. all of these kinds of things are associated specifically with this one team. has to tarnish the legacy or give confirmation to people. that's a shame. this is absolutely the best football team of the last 15 years, at least, but if we're going to attach asterisks in sports to barry bonds and other guys who have been accused who were great players, then you've got to attach something to them. >> kate and keith, thank you both for that. i'm sure we'll be talking about it as well. >>> that wraps up this hour with weekends with alex. join me at noon eastern. coming up straight ahead, it's up can steve kornacki. if you're running a business legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped over one million business owners get started. visit us today for legal help you can count on to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich cream

. >> reporter: they were heavily fined for spygate in 2007 videotaping a team's signals during the game time they're in the realm of what's acceptable. >> reporter: as some colts joked they would be happy to replace the patriots in the super bowl new england could have played with soap and beat us dwayne allen say. >> the league has only said their review is continuing. richard sherman weighed in on the controversy at a press conference yesterday. >> i'm not sure anything will come of it. whether it's true or not true. it didn't have an effect on the game. if it's against the rules it's against the rules. it's not going to have any effect on this game. they're going to play this game. whatever they did, the risk/reward was greater. >> we know that they're going to make sure that those balls match up for the super bowl. coach belichick said that he wasn't aware of the claim until the game. >>> usa today reporting that the goalkeeper that we all know hope solo has suspended by usa soccer for 30 days. there's speculation that it has to do with her husband's drunk driving arrest. the coach

that is known as spygate. they were fined $250,000 and lost a first-round draft pick.is because of the spygate scandal, don, that the patriots are not getting the benefit of the doubt here at least from not anyone outside of the boston area code not the fans or the league which is investigating the incident and hay shouldn't, because the reason that the colts were looking for deflated ball is because they had played them erlarlier and had a receiver who caught it and couldn't catch it and thought it was funny, and he brought it to the equipment manager, and said it looked funny, so when it happened again in this game they brought it to the attention of the officials, and so did this happen more than in this game and did it happen against the raven, and have they been doing this all season and christine brennan said this is our national sport. so this is important. >> and so that is important, and we want to bring in mel robins, and pete najarian, and so, do you think that the temperature makes a difference, and you say that there was an interception and it figured it o

we want to go back to spygate, bill belichick had a somewhat similar defense.as a, i didn't really know what the rules are with this i'm not aware of what the videotape rules are. the only person who got fired from the patriots for spygate -- remember that the only person that got fired was the kid running the video camera. so they've done the acted-alone thing before. we'll have to see if that comes into play. >> he did not jump to tom brady's defense. he said he didn't know anything. he didn't make sure that no one else did. what he said exactly was tom can talk about his preferences in greater detail about how he likes the footballs. tom can talk about his own preferences in greater detail. really directly passing the buck here and putting a lot of these questions directly on tom brady. >> which probably means tom brady at some point is going to come out publicly and talk about this. he almost has to right? >> i would have to. >> i'll leave it right there. the next hour of cnn "newsroom" after a break. (vo) theraflu starts to get to work in your body in just

he was involved with spygate. to me he has a bigger scar on him that he did not have before regardless of what happens in the super bowl. >> jordan schultz, thanks so much for being with us this morning. >> thank you. >> this doesn't end. >>> hall of famer ernie banks is being remembered this morning as one of the greatest players in baseball history. mr. bangs was known as mr. cub for 19 seasons in chicago. last night his team announced his passing. >> fire away. the ball is back back back. that's it. that's it. hey, hey, he did it. ernie banks got number 500. >> reporter: he's considered one of the greatest shortstops to ever play the game and one of baseball's brightest stars. ♪ the cubs are on their way hey hey ♪ >> reporter: even playing on perennially poor cubs teams didn't dampen his enthusiasm for bachblt he's famous for saying it's a beautiful day. let's play two. banks spent his entire 19-year career in chicago. he became known to fans at wrigley field as mr. cub. >> you pull for the players like they're

>> reporter: i think there are meantive accusations against coach belichik just because of the spygate history you just mentioned. in the slightly more rational world of sports analysis there are two schools of thought on this. nothing whatsoever happens in terms of football operations within the patriots' organization that coach belichik doesn't sign off on. if this did happen. if there was wrongdoing he must have known about it. the other school of thought is if some equipment guy thinks i'm going to give my quarterback tom brady every single advantage i can, we know he likes to have his balls slightly less inflated, then i'll do that. if that equipment guy deflates the balls slightly, between the refer ease inspections and tom brady taking the field then coach belichik would have been pretty busy and wouldn't have known anything about it. bill: no one is suggesting this made a difference in the results. >> reporter: darius butler tweeted perhaps they should replay the game. the colts quarterback yesterday said he felt quote deflated at the loss obviously some what tongue-in-cheek. b

the team was heavily fined and lost a first round draft pick in the incident that became known at spygate. belichick says he and the patriots are cooperating fully with the n.f.l. 's latest investigation. omar villafranca, cbs news. >> patriots quarterback tom brady is expected to address technology has improved our lives, in small ways. in big ways. but what about this? couldn't this be better too? at redfin we asked ourselves the same question. which led us to create new ways to take you inside a home or instantly schedule a tour. but we paired that with our own agents who aren't paid on commission but on your happiness. and that's what makes it all work the world has changed and now real estate has too. zing officer at the -- commanding officer at the gawn tan know naval -- guantanamo naval base was relieved of his command. he was relieved because of an affair with a woman and also in connection with the death of that woman's office. ncis is investigating. >>> the united states and cuban officials have now entered a second day of historic talks. the face-to-face talks in havana are the

you have spygate and you have this and then the filming of the walk-through before the super bowl inso, repeat offendres are disciplined generally stronger than first-time the offender, and it is going to be interesting to see what the league does. >> yeah mike what sort of discipline would there be? draft picks? >> well i mean -- yeah. i mean i think that yeah, to me you are going to look at certainly the possibility of draft picks and of course a substantial amount of money, and then the question is what do you do in preparation for the coming super bowl so that it does not happen again. we have a kicking ball coordinator that now handles all of the kicking ball, and maybe now you are going to be having alternate officials who will handle all of the balls, and shouldn't the officials have caught it when they brought in a new ball and felt it to see the difference that it was not inflated properly and i they the guys in stripes don't shop everyday to squeeze the cantaloupes to figure out if it is ripe. two pounds of pressure is not enough to if figure it out. so the league will step

but we had spygate before deflategate. it's bizarre of all the teams in the nfl, only this team keeps getting caught in cheating scandals. then for him to tell us somehow the atmospheric pressure of one half of the field is different than the other half of the field is an insult to people who think. >> ben? >> poppy, can you imagine if he would have come out and said i would have never said that we should tape another team's practice and i've never watched any of the tape that we ever recorded of another team's practice. i mean it's as ridiculous as that. of course he watched the tape. of course they cheated before. and when you cheat and then you have something like this happen it's obvious that there's cheating going on here. and most important thing is this. tom brady wanted that football a little bit deflated because it was going to be a day where he needed a little extra grip because of the atmospheric pressure and the weather conditions of the rain. it doesn't happen without him saying let's go with this. >> guys let

remember both bill belichick and the patriots were find for the 2007 spygate spannedal for videotaping an opponent's defensive signals. the nfl told nbc news said it wouldn't comment on the espn report. the patriots indicated to nbc news they will continue to cooperate fully. >>> this morning the race to find two japanese hostages threatened in a new isis video. a key u.s. ally could be on the brink of a queue. nbc's chief foreign xent richard engel has the poor. >> reporter: the group's beheader threatens to kill two japanese hostages unless japan pays $2 million, the same amount japan has committed to fighting the group. japan says it won't bow to terrorist demands. it's a reminder that isis remainingsremain remains a dangerous force to be reckoned with. being attacked by the u.s. has raised isis's profile, making it easier to recruit and make money. isis is making progress in battle. a senior u.s. military official with personal knowledge of events tells nbc news the u.s.-led air war kills about 1,000 isis fighters a month, many of them in and around the city of kobani. but they are

that scandal was known as spygate. >>> american sniper shattered box office records in its opening weekend. moviegoers are raving about the true story of a texas navy seal, but a couple big hollywood names are taking shots at the film. >> reporter: american sniper which made $90 million this weekend was quite the talk on twitter today after seth rogen tweeted american sniper kind of reminds me of the movie that's showing in the 3rd act of in glorious. then michael moore tweeted we were taught snipers were cowards. snipers aren't heroes. since the tweet there's been a lot of backlash towards the two on social media, some saying rogen's tweet was comparing the movie to nazi propaganda at actor rob lowe tweeted about -- moore's comment he's kidding right? the editor of variety magazine is not surprised. >> it doesn't surprise me because this is a movie that the filmmakers knew that would generate some controversy. >> hey, hand me my daughter, please, right now! >> reporter: american sniper is a true story about an american navy seal sniper who saves lives on the battlefield directedly clint e

2007, the patriots were fined for videotaping the new york jets hand signals in what was dubbed "spygate." belichick says the current controversy shouldn't overshadow the game. >> it's unfortunate that this is a story coming off of two great play-off victories by our football team and players. >> reporter: the patriots say they are cooperating with the nfl's investigation while they prepare for super bowl xlix. omar villafranca, cbs news. >> the nfl says its investigation into "deflate- gate" will take a few more days. >>> one of the men who beat bryan stow outside dodger stadium has pleaded guilty to a federal weapons charge. marvin norwood is facing 10 more years in prison as a result. the charge stems from a search of his home before he was arrested for the beating. his co-defendant louie sanchez is set to plead guilty to the same charge next week. >>> concern is growing as the measles outbreak spreads here in california. there are now 7 reported cases in the bay area including san mateo, alameda and santa clara counties. at least one of the cases has been traced back to disneyland. 7

. >> patriots and bill belichick were fined for spygate, videotaping signals before a game. >> coach belichick said he didn't know anything about the ball controversy until the morning after. >>> now to new developments in the michael brown shooting case. two months since the missouri grand jury declined to indict former police officers darren wilson in the shooting death of the unarmed teen. now it lookts like the federal government is heading in the same direction. "the new york times" is reporting the justice department is not expected to recommend civil rights charges against officer wilson. law enforcement sources tell a paper an fbi investigation found no evidence to support such charges. the "times" is also reporting attorney general eric holder declined request by local officials to announce the doj's conclusion alongside prosecutor bob mcculloch. that way it wouldn't appear they reached their opinions together. attorney general holder expected to make an official announcement before he leaves office but that depends on loreette aircrafts lynch, the successor. her confirmatio

i went through the spygate situation where people were accusing the organization of filming practices of another team. i can tell you as a player, it made you come together. it created unity in our locker room. right now we don't know if tom was involved or coach belichick was involved. i do know that inside the locker room a lot of guys are feeling that some of our hard work is being tested and we want to go out and prove >> it so we know someone's involved, right? something happened. >> that's the thing. who did the footballs were deflated. so how did they get that way? i don't buy el nino. i don't buy aliens. i don't buy any of that. someone did that and someone i think did it purposely. i know the nfl is going to investigate. but i don't buy that they just sort of deflated themselves. i do think probably brady had something to do with this. i don't think there's any question. >> then you're a hall of famer, your fellow hall of famers, joe montana, troy aikman have chimed in and said they think tom brady is involved are. you in that club or not? >> i just look at those guys, joe an

that's what happened in the spygate situation. remember the jets coach at the time eric mangini who used to be an assistant coach for the patriots and knew this practice of taping the other offense's signals and defensive signals which is against the rules was going on. he reported it when he saw them doing it to them in a game. not only did the patriots get heavily fined for doing it but eric mangini was heavily criticized for quote, tattletaling and people were saying quote, he shouldn't have done that and it went outside of the way things should be. i think you have other teams reluctant to quote, tell on the patriots if they have experienced that but the nfl, now that they are investigating, they will be able to open some of those doors. the side note to that, by the way, is the nfl realized it is under a ton of scrutiny. the much much more serious issue of domestic violence that has echoed through this season one of the allegations there is that they didn't get it right over and over again, not just with the punishment but th

when it matters most and something to stuff back in the face of all those critics who talk about spygate. a win would tie belichick and brady for the most for any coach or quarterback in nfl history. instead, eight days and counting before the sixth super bowl in 14 years, all anyone is asking is this who knew about the deflated footballs and when did they know it? for more on all of this i'm joined by a woman in massachusetts, investigative sports reporter for the boston globe, here on set, anita marks she's a radio host with nbc sports and former professional football player and the huffington post. sharra, you heard from belichick the coach in the opening there, i want to play brady for a moment. this is brady later on the day on thursday unusual press conference. here he is talking about the perfect football. >> when i pick those footballs out, at that point, you know to me they're perfect. i don't want anyone touching the balls after that. i don't want anyone rubbing them. you know putting any air in taking any air out. to me those balls are perfect and that's what i expect when i s

to say that is the smoking gun, but -- >> we only talk about this because of belichick's persona, spygate, and the semicontroversy with the reigns about who was eligible. it is what is maddening about the patriots. it's like a tax lawyer that finds a really good loophole. you come here and it's like no, they say that's the law, i'm not breaking the law. >> and they only do it for the super super rich. >> we don't do that, it was clearly within the rules, maybe you change the rules. he is a genius. if he wasn't such a jerk, we could say he is outthinking everyone in the nfl. >> but the ineligible receive were that is just from the play book. he gets to benefit of the doubt because of spy gate. >> here is someone that is sort of speaking of this guy and the past dynasty, it is the insane psychological obsession with winning, and it is unbelievable drive that he and brady have. because of spy gate, he is thinking of many ways to get an edge. some might be illegal. it seems plausible because it is belichick. >> and some players like to put the screws to the patriots. it took miracle catches f

the other thought i had, given the context of spygate, is that when i saw brady yesterday, my thoughthat he is not necessarily lying about this, their up to all sorts of she than in began -- shenanigans. >> but why would it be useful to them, why wouldn't that get into the minds of their opponents. sometimes they're not even doctoring a baseball but you think they are and then they over swing. people are going to go crazy. i don't even think that spy gate was that big of a deal. every coach admits they look at the game film provided pi the league and they try to watch the other team on the sidelines. they had someone there to tape them. this was before iphones when taping someone was weird. >> it is hilarious how polarized this is. is this big because people hate the patriots? >> it's not the only thing, but if this was the atlanta falcons or the cincinnati bengals, the yankees, and the patriots are in the reptillian part of your brain, and the balls puns. >> we loved the wiener scandal and we loved what he could do for us so we could say weiner. >> president obama did an interview wi

this is a team that had the spygate scandal several years ago. i disagree with chris slightly in that i think having deflated balls over time especially if you factor it in may explain why patriots have such a low fumble ratio. it's extraordinarily lower than any other team in the league. if in fact someone has been deflating the balls consistently throughout the last several seasons, then i think that over time it could have a statistical impact. as chris pointed out, the reason why he and his counter-parts who are kickers do everything single thing they can, because the nfl is a game it's a league where even the slightest advantage is something that everyone is seeking. because the line between winning and losing is so fine. so i'm not saying that it's tom brady or coach belichick. the lawyer in me says everyone is innocent until proven guilty. they have both denied any knowledge or wrongdoing and i would accept that. but i think that his explanation, the coach's explanation yesterday, didn't completely fulfill my idea that somebody tampered wi

they have been after them since spygate. almost like an o.j. type situation. they got off the first time but they better obey the letter of the law from then on. everybody is waiting for them to mess up. if it even happened the tiniest competitive advantage. because people dislike belichick and the patriots. and that's what is happening. also every super bowl need ass a story. last year richard sherman the before the harbaughs. >> tom brady is the biggest celebrity quarterback in the league. if these same charges had involved russell wilson, would most of the meet i can'tdia scareimmediatemedia care? >> most of the media would believe him. this is not a first time owe fence. if seattle was a first time offense, it would be a different story.if seattle was a first time offense, it would be a different story. i liked tom brady before this but he's pi noeknocchiopinocchio. he's stone cold lying. troy aikman called him out. >> how do you know he's lying? hold on. have you conducted your own investigation? >> well i said i don't think i was cheating. and he said, w

>> well, it is best because you have conspiracy and the drama and going from the spygate to the deflategateattle the unsung hero who made it and there once again, and this game is turning into the good versus the evil and you could not ask for to a better movie and this is the super bowl that we are talking about. and it is great. >> and if it were any other team, would it make any headlines? >> not even close. >> you think that the media is overhyping it? >> yes. we are ten days into this scandal, and we ve almost zero factual information. >> are you a patriot fan? >> yes. come on now, there is not much factual information on this right now, and we know that one football have been underinflate and then we have more, and then we have a rogue ball that took it to the restroom that was 90 second and that is 11 footballs and that is one skill eded tech technician there. >> and i have to run, and thank you, bell, and chris, and izell, we will be right back. retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards your retirement every week and let it grow over time, for twenty to th

back in 2002 the pats got caught up in the spygate scandal after being accused of illegally filming rams practice before a super bowl game. nonetheless, it is the patriots and seahawks for super bowl xlix. it's sunday february 1st right here on nbc 10. pregame activities begin at noon. kickoff is at 6:30. >> now, you're nbc 10 first alert weather with chief meteorologist glenn "hurricane" schwartz. >> it was some nasty weather for that patriots game yesterday. and we had our own share of nasty weather yesterday morning. gusty winds during the day today. strong winds gusting over 30 miles an hour. nothing too dangerous. we are tracking snow coming in just a couple of days with an icy mix possible in some parts of the area. a lot of sunshine now. we had clouds a couple of hours ago. 42 degrees, philadelphia international. the wind west at 16 miles an hour. that's a dry wind direction. with temperatures above freezing and that wind the ground is dry. it's not going to be icy. you don't have to worry about slipping on ice tomorrow morning out in your driveway like you did this morning. there

but, you know breaking the rules, you had the spygate thing.hing he would remotely be concerned with. and what he gave yesterday, i believe will cause the league to look at a broader sampling of how footballs are manipulated by quarterbacks, which they all do it because it's all about the grip and how they feel they can throw the football best but then the pressure and you can't dispute the fact that the atmosphere does have something to do with it. if you take a ball in denver a football, and kickers will tell you they get better range because of the atmosphere there. so there's so much more to look at. i think at the end of the day, the league is going to come back and say, you know what? these are things that happened during the course of a game across the league. because it was a little deceitful the way they got into this investigation. a reporter out of indianapolis said that jackson, the guy who intercepted the football said it felt very soft. >> immediately want to the sideline because he was so alarmed by this underinflated football. t

now, in this case i think goodell with what happened with spygate several years ago in 2007, they willrsh. >> it's interesting, people wondering if it would have made a difference in the game. score was 45-7. scored most of the points early on the ground. >> i think colts would have put stick them on their hands and had a great advantage and it wouldn't have made a difference. patriots were dominant. we'll watch them go up against a tough team in the seahawks in the super bowl in a couple weeks in arizona. >> whether it would have helped or not, cheating is wrong period. if it turns out someone did, the nfl will have to say something and soon. coy wire great to have you with us. really appreciate it. >> coming up next the question about the state of the union address. in the state of the union address, is taunting allowed? >> i have no more campaigns to run. my only agenda -- [ applause ] -- i know because i won both of them. >> president clearly on offense next. before larry instantly transferred money from his bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement account. be

the patriots have been so good for so long that whatever they may have done in the past, and spygateck. a great organization. >> jimmy: i totally agree. >> you don't need it. >> jimmy: last time you were here, we were commenting on the president's first pitch. first of all, i always tell everybody don't go out and do the first pitch. it just never goes well because it always goes crazy. it really does. >> yeah. >> jimmy: it's a lose-lose situation. and we've talked about it and commented on it. >> president obama is a very good athlete, very good basketball player. >> jimmy: yeah. >> you can tell if someone has played baseball or not. because even like charles barkley, a great nba hall of famer, his first pitch kind of indicates that he hadn't played much baseball. and i'd thrown out first pitches before at minor league games and other games. and the cardinals asked me to throw out a pitch of as part of, and this is key -- >> jimmy: well, let me just say that you are mr. st. louis. you do so much for charity and st. louis. >> yeah, you were kind enough to come in. >> jimmy: so, this