and even through a spyglass that flag would have looked small, four miles away. i went out there on a boat with my dad once and i brought a pair of binoculars, and my buddies were flying the big flag, and can you see it. you can see it four to five miles away. >> let's hear from mays landing, new jersey, hi to john. >> caller: hi. i just thought it might be interesting if you gave a little bit of information on the reason behind the war of 1812, the background and why the war was foul. >> sure, excellent. i'm going to tell you. this one, go to ft. mchenry's website, tell your kids. we have a thing called cast your vote, click on that, all different perspectives from historic people from the war of 1812, but in a nutshell i'll give you two perspectives. the pro-war side said we had to declare war. the british were stealing american sailors or impressing them, stopping american ships and forcing american sailors off the ships and making them serve in the british navy. thousands of americans were impressed, and the idea was the american flag doesn't afford any prote