. >> is this true for adware, spyware? all of these others? applicable to that too? >> apts are the best. the exfiltration point that the congressman spoke about, that is the elite kind of attack vector in 2012. spyware maybe not so much. >> with the malware, who are the people that are doing this? can you name them? >> i can't. i'm not law enforcement. >> is there anybody on the panel? dr. amoroso talked about this malware so respectfully, and how eloquently it is put together. is there anybody can tell me who we're talking about? >> i think if you take a look at the most recent investigation conducted by the fbi on the dns changer malware, you'll see it was a group of individuals operating out of estonia that basically sent malware to individuals in various forms and e-mails, and you clicked on it, and it infected your computer in a way that it directed you went you went out to do a dns type search, you were looking for amazon.com or some other company, you really went to their servers. their own servers were embedded in various locations in the united states. so t

>> you know, certainly in the case s we have brought like when someone gets or puts spyware in your computer, that is a harm to the public, even if it's hard to quantify that harm. when you talk about some of the oth other cases involving facebook or google and they said they will protect people's information and make it private and then made the default public. it's hard to quantify the harms. as i view our privacy report or our policy work and we have had a policy function going back to when the agency was created almost 100 years ago, it's about approximate best practices, and so in a lot of companies, a lot of companies are -- want to be engaged in best practice s and we work with the stakeholders so, for example, one company that participated in the work shops of was walmart. because they believe it's important to have good privacy practices, it encourages more trust in the internet and more commerce. but i hear your points we do not wants to be a regulatory agency here. >> i'm comforted to hear the congressman say that, perhaps that does away with my concerns with the privacy report th

you know, there's certain issues about opting in and opting out and we've discussed spyware and malware, but it's hard to define, and so therefore there's not a hard bill or law on the books. i think we're building something from scratch here. the issue is we have to remove barriers, not develop any new bureaucracy or really new mandates. >> host: do you have firms in omaha that you represent that are interested in the legislation? are people back home interested in this >> guest: it surprises me how interested people are back home about cybersecurity, so when i bring it up, i always get a lively conversation, and, yeah, there's some farms back home -- a lot of telecommunications, network providers, level iii started in omaha, and so there's probably a little higher understanding the cybersecurity because of the businesses in omaha. >> host: we've been talking with representative lee terry, a republican of necks, member of the energy and commerce committee and co-head of the cybersecurity working group. congressman, thank you. >> guest: thank you. now joining us on "the communicators" i

the spyware, the antivirus, parental controls. we all have educational and awareness, you know, places on our website, our home page where you can go to. we have a bot net notification program. we have a method to notify you and then facilitate you cleaning up your home device. >> i think there's a lot of commonality in the approaches that we're all taking. one of the distinctions that i mentioned in my opening comments regarding our cyber security partner i think is -- our partners is really important. these are people that are focused, their full-time job is cyber security. they're looking for threats all the time and they have hundreds if not thousands of customers that are feeding them information and they are seeing realtime threats go through many companies. so a threat that might hit one company, they're aware of be many of us would see that. so i think that information sharing in that cyber security industry is really critical and it's something that we value. >> all right. many totzke, you may have answered this already.

spyware maybe not so much. >> with the malware, who are these people that are doing this specifically? can you name them? >> i can't. i'm not in law enforcement. you might -- >> is there anybody on the panel? >> when the doctor talked about this malware, so respectfully and how eloquently it's put together, anybody can tell me who we're talking about? >> i think if you take a look at the most recent investigation conducted by the fbi on the malwail, it was a group of individuals operating out after stona that basically sent malware to individuals in various forms and e-mails and you clicked on it and it infected your computer in a way that directed you when you went tout do a dns type search, you were looking for amazon.com or some other company, you really went to their servers. and their own servers were actually imbedded in various locations in the united states. so these are organized groups. they figured out how to capitalize on the money you can make with the malware. >> are these people, for example, in astonia, are they part of a mafia? underground? an organization that is lar

he so tired i hear all the training camps are pretty exhausting as a real puppy or a robot full of spyware god help us all. now i just didn't get tons of posts of this pic on our wall which says if you can read it this way to china accepting applications tim david posted the following pic on our facebook wall explaining now this is suspicious i'll three has three items on a three sided sign three three three do i need to spell it out double that you got six six six people trial and travel sounds like terrorism to me and body lotion try taking that on a plane this story is obviously a front for a terrorist group the drop location is probably in this section for pete's sake so i really like the commentary on that one too but last but certainly not least our winner for the most suspicious looking suspicious picture is price steven who posted this pic on our wall simply saying look out making material so congratulations price you get a sinaloa show mug will be in touch to figure out how to get back to you now moving on to more serious matters last night we interviewed the young turks and despa

constitutional conservatives ok laura so far do you think you know a lot more is going to ask you guys and spyware ok let me ask you a question of you ninety percent of the money goes into the ads on television the republicans are spending money on and ninety percent of them are super and they could have ok how can you unify a party that is so negative on itself ok i mean you can the republican party mend itself i mean mitt romney just doesn't you know the word charisma doesn't come to my mind ok but i don't live in the states maybe i would feel differently by you saw more of him ok i mean thank you. but i mean can the kid the republican party mended self with ninety percent of the ads being really negative. well once you get done trashing each other and throwing seeds of doubt it does make it difficult to unify at a later point but one of the things that has been a hallmark of the republican party is they unify via fear they find a particular issue whether it's gay marriage whether it's terrorism whether it's communism whether it's civil rights and they unify under that as as their own brand of f

depending on what level they entered through, they may have been able to actually put some type of a spywaren the system or had full administration criminal seeing what is passing through the servers and collecting that data. over the course of a month, depending on the size of the payment processor they could potentially have garnered millions and millions, and tens of millions of credit card numbers and data. >>neil: do they know if they have or been getting millions? >>guest: well, officially reports they are showing only numbers in the thousands, 50,000 or 60,000 or 80,000 but they saying somehow that it could be tens of millions. that being said, the amount of fraud that has been perpetrated so for in regard to the breach, that information is not disclosed. >>neil: so what do people do? >>guest: well, you have a credit card i have a credit card. you use it, you hand it off, to a cab driver and so on and when you give it out it is 59 -- at risk. even when you at home it is at risk. play it simple, pay close attention to the statements. i lock at ploy statements weekly online both at my b

there are the cases we have brought with spyware, some involving social networks, over the last year. i hear the concerns, but we are not going to, and i do not want to say exactly what we are going to do, but we certainly will not be regulating. we are not a regulatory agency. i cannot say more that we are looking at this. we are asking questions. we are collecting information, but we are very aware of this sort of world independent -- rural pharmacists. i have pharmacists in my family, and i have met with a number of groups on both sides of the issue. >> i cannot say anything more about it than that except to reiterate or states that my grandfather was a pharmacist, as well, so there. >> ok. on the privacy issue, do you never evidence to show or to demonstrate that the public is being harmed now if we do not do anything could >> you know, certainly in the cases we have brought, like when someone puts spyware on your computer or spam on your computer, that is a harm to the public, even though it is very hard to quantify that harm. other cases involving facebook or global, where, boil

. >> is that true for spyware, all these others? >> yeah. apts are the best, right? i mean, apts, this exfiltration point that the congressman spoke about, that is the, that is the elite kind of attack vector in 2012. >> okay. >> spyware maybe not so much. >> and with the malware who are these people that are doing this specifically? can you name them? >> i can't. i'm not in law enforcement -- >> is there anybody on the panel -- >> yeah. >> when dr. amoroso talked about this malware so respect my and how howell dependently it's -- howell gantly it's put together -- >> i think if you take a look at the most recent investigation conducted by the fbi on the d, this f malware, you'll see that was a group of individuals operating out of estonia that, basically, sent malware to individuals in various forms and e-mails, and you clicked on it, and it infected your computer in a way that directed you when you went out to do a dns type search, you were looking for amazon or some other type company, you went to their servers, and they were embedded in various locations in the u

i think you have heard on the spyware the antivirus parental control, we all have educational and awareness, you know, places on our web site, our homepage where you can go to. we have a botnet notification program. request that your computer does become a.net. we have a method to notify you and then facilitate you cleaning up your home device. >> i think there's a lot of commonality in the approach is that we are all taking. one of the distinctions that i mentioned in my opening comments regarding our cybersecurity partner, i think our partners, it is really important. these are people that are focused and their full-time job is cybersecurity. they are looking for threats all the time and they have hundreds if not thousands of customers that are feeding them information and they are seeing real-time threads go through many companies. a threat that might hit one company they are aware of before many of us would see that. so that information sharing and that cybersecurity industry is really critical in something that we value. >> you may have answered that question. >> yes maam is certainly

it has spyware. in fact they were right, because the british said they were taking that that.e do not want it up there. we do not want to see who goes there, see what trouble it causes. you have hit the nail on the head there. i do not know where we draw that line, because one of the goals of these groups is to fundamentally change the way we live our lives. in an effort to protect against the tax in the future, do we want to hand these groups a victory they would not have already, i fundamentally change the way we operate, but fundamentally changing the way the government monitors its own citizens? it may be that we have to have -- and this was an idea given to me -- a policy debate in this country about the likelihood of small scale or meeting scale terrorist attacks and that may be the price for not having the going into the business of its citizens. >> thank you. i am from adams county. given that we chairs religious liberty in this -- cherished religious liberty, how should we as americans try to engage the muslim population such that we can better assimilate them into ou