he would also see much of the war's brutality during his deployment with the elite 3 squadron sas.efinitely a buzz of elitism, 'cause it is the best thing you could do for your career, to go to that unit, especially when you're a lower rank and you're actually gonna get to do a lotta hands-on stuff. you definitely feel confident with these guys. i never once felt like i was going out and i was unprotected. i never felt like i--we weren't gonna get through it. mark: it was braden chapman's job to find taliban targets by intercepting and tracking their communications. braden: if we were going out on a mission where we were chasing a mobile phone target, then i would be with either myself, or the other signals intelligence operator. we'd be with the teams, and we'd be going in close and tracking that phone. often, when they hear the helicopters coming in, they would actually turn their mobiles phones off. mark: within days of deploying with the sas in afghanistan, braden chapman got a sense of what was to come during a conversation with one of the squadron's senior soldiers. braden: i

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squadron saw off the coast of florida in 2015. >> there is a whole fleet of them. look at the sa. my gosh. they're all going against the wind.st. look at that thing, dude. >> i mean, you were a fighter pilot for ten years. obviously you've seen some of these objects yourself, you say. is this something you believe even has in its capabilities? >> well, the performance characteristics that we're observing from these objects range from seeing stationary in very high winds, category 4 hurricane winds to accelerating all the way to mach 2. these objects are out there all day and they're coming close to hitting our aircraft. so no, i'm not aware of anything with our arsenal that has those type of performance characteristics, and i'm also not sure why they would be testing such things in our airspace. >> it's just remarkable to hear you say that that's something you don't think the u.s. has the ability to do, and people kind of try to eliminate other things that this could be. you say you don't think that's something the u.s. has in its abilities. >> and that is a conversation that at least in the modern time we've been having sin