and then the question i had about sraddha's wonderful presentation, could you sort of give me a sense of the venues at which she would make that presentation? is that what you do when you actually go into an individual house? or is that more typical of like a group -- a homeowners meeting or something, a tenants meeting? >> this particular presentation is a new presentation, but it will be geared towards public housing residents in san francisco. we have made similar presentations at housing authority type meetings for tenants. and also for the hope s.f. leadership academy. so, it tends to be a group of public housing residents who gather in a room where we give the presentation. >> great, thank you. thank you both for those. >> commissioner, thank you. donnie has put in a lot of work on this. and before we go to public comment, maybe a quick thought from our director. >> i also just wanted to chime in and thank donnie who has done a fantastic job leading up our outreach team, our guest, donnie, and clark and sraddha for the fantastic presentations. as you saw, the message is clear, i

and then the question i had about sraddha's wonderful presentation, could you sort of give me a sense of the venues at which she would make that presentation? is that what you do when you actually go into an individual house? or is that more typical of like a group -- a homeowners meeting or something, a tenants meeting? >> this particular presentation is a new presentation, but it will be geared towards public housing residents in san francisco. we