sres mike i'm going to get you to respond to kareen she time and kareen ok it's almost as if kareen channeled let him in east was about to say to people who want to pull the flat life not a movement he she is this is what she told us and then resume you actually don't call myself an ally is that something that you are right apps instead i say that i'm practicing anti-racism and so that's an internal process where i am trying to be humble about is the 1st and most crucial thing to be humble and to be willing to learn from people of color who are the experts i constantly trying to do the best myself with my white fragility of right and sadness so that's the internal piece and then the 2nd piece of practicing anti-racism is of course to dismantle white supremacy which exists in every institution in the united states up to and including the federal government yes and i learnt the a practice that she uses because in your therapy in your work you then each people from different communities how to practice could you give as. good friends you want to support that movement any single practice that the