in this memo, though, in this case, at the ssa, the person writing it makes note of the fact that this inconsistency can be stressful for employees, and frankly for all the reasons we laid out, it's hard to feel optimistic about that. i have not spoken to any member on the republican or democratic side who doesn't think we're going to have a shut down come this weekend. instead, the concern is rather, once they get into a shutdown, how they can maneuver their way out of one. that's still something we're already lacking for plans in this building of how to avoid one. certainly there's no plan for how to get out of one. i think that's the source of a lot of consternation on capitol hill. i will say, as i have been covering the impeachment hearing all day. democrats have consistently reminded of the fact that this impeachment inquiry hearing is going on during critical days and hours when republicans are fighting amongst themselves about how to avoid this shut shutdown. some have count down clocks, white house have consistently reminded us of the hourly and minimum mark of how a shutdown

fix the issue and they issued them a reimbursement check but again, if fsa had the resources and -- ssa had the resourcesf and funding they ne, my team wouldn't need to step in and we do have positive steps being taken despite all that . mr. levins, briefly explain when the tmf is? >> yes, the tmf was a vehicle we were able to leverage to you basically get a loan of replacement production system, production system is about 20 years old and it's out of date and need of replacement. one of the high value assets with those funds we're able to begin development anden we're targeting deployment in december of this year. >> thank you. i will be respectful of my time. i did want to add my republican colleague seems to invested in fixing backlogme on the agencies but they need to understand that cutting fund asking not the answer. we have need to invest in the people and the constituents get the service they deserve from their government. i yield back. >> the distinguished january from florida. >>-- gentleman from florida. >> thanknk you, mr. chairman. quick comment onn spending leves and feder

. >> you went with this ssa. is that someone that you respect? >> yes. i respect him. >> he came and did an interview with us and he testified that over a decade of experience with the delaware u.s. attorney's office or u.s. attorney weiss to influence their prosecutorial decision. >> do you accept the judgment >> it is a matter of timing. he retired in june 2022 but at that time, i had not even overcome the burden that it took me to say that this has been political and been politicized. it was not until october 7, 2022. the fbi, ssa came to his conclusions. >> can i mention something right now? >> i respect very much your service and i respect your testimony but it was completely within the realm of prosecutorial discretion and suggests differences of opinion that people have. those of us in prosecution understand that has happened all the time. >> chair recognizes the gentleman from arizona for five minutes. >> thank you. it is good to have you here. appreciated. appreciate your courage and willingness to testify. i will go through page 20 of your test

the ssa telling wsb they're required by law to recover these payments.ing and resource constraints challenged our service delivery, our payment accuracy rates remain high. >> people are going back and taking a second look and redoing the numbers and finding, in fact, people do owe money back to the government. now it's causing a bigger problem for a lot of individuals. >> reporter: it can be a giant problem. now, if you receive a message like this and you believe an overpayment wasn't your fault, the claim is unfair, or that paying that money back will cause you hardship, you should immediately reach out to the ssa to appeal that decision. they can, at times, waive repayment or you can negotiate a repayment plan that doesn't put you under undue stress. linsey? >> devastating. can't believe that one woman had to sell her home. >> unbelievable. >> rebecca, thank you. >> shifting gears to deion sanders and his colorado buffalos quickly becoming the story of the year in college football. they pulled off a dramatic come from behind victory in double overtime

in a statement through gary shapley's attorneys, he says quote, neither the ssa, irs, gary shapley nor his attorneys have ever released any confidential taxpayer information, except through whistleblowers authorized by statute. this is in many ways, an effort by the hunter biden legal team to go on the offensive and paint him in this situation as being a victim of a political process here as opposed to being given a fair legal acquitting by both the irs, the department of justice, and the united states congress. >> ryan noble, thank you very much. >>> and coming up next, four days into the uaw strike, what role is the white house playing in the negotiations between the auto workers union and the big three auto makers? >>> plus, house republicans release a bill to avert a government shutdown for another month. what's in it, and what chance if any does it have of passing the house or the senate? >>> and five american prisoners held in iran are now free, and they're on the way back to the united states. what we know about the prisoner swap. nsc coordinator for strategic communications joh

front for debt relief services, for unknown calls and texts asking for personal information like your ssaial security number. don't give that out. >> reporter: the ftc says if you do have questions about your student loan payments, your best bet is to reach out directly to your loan servicer. if you don't know who that is, you can fine their information free of charge on student aid.gov. finally, if you get one of though scam calls it' best to hang up before you give out any of your person information. better yet, don't answer the call at all. guys? >> good advice there. elizabeth, are there other options for borrowers? >> reporter: the administration has rolled out a new program that will try to lower monthly payments based on income. if you want to fine out if you can qualify for that new program you can find that information on student aid.gov. >> really helpful stuff, elizabeth. thank you. michael? >>> coming up the science of craving more. how you can take control to have better habits. and next, why some people may have a harder time finding the perfect pumpkin this year. james long

math here might be nine now would have a seat in the in the cap plus these regional composition of ssaembers and we would extend a one year term as ex-officio to the five remaining dac pac members. if they choose to join next slide the second recommendation is to standardize and i would say document our procedures of how the different advisory councils and committees align to promising practices of family engagement and comply with the legal requirements. you'll see in the appendix and in the memo that's attached to this that some groups follow the green act, some follow the brown act, some are not required to follow anything. and so we need to make sure that we have room rules that comport to the state and federal requirements to ensure access. now, i want to make a note that we heard loud and clear that we should not do this alone, that we should consult with the people who have been here, the and take into account what has worked in the past as we move into the future . so we will be doing this in collaboration with our advisory groups. next slide. and finally we bring to you the re