amber is behind us and we're going east into the swamp land that is the origin of america and st augustine florida i would conditions like new york geography that this won't sell america and the middle of america and everything else that's actually is a hardworking part of america which holds the future with and conversely there is some false future that is happening right here on the west coast and others the so-called future of this economic miracle of the disruptive technologies the silicon valley and the rest of that i would venture to say that that is actually is a pasta and it's a pasta which is already not about to become a cost you're not buying into that disrupt that are going to change the world forever and will seem to have us a negative view on this constant thing not only i do not buy into that but i treat them as a symptom of what's wrong with our economic development model in general so if you go back and look at how california became the largest the core to me those fundamentals the supply of the resources natural resources such as beauty is such as land such as ability to attract

going from san francisco and heading east to the original settlement of america which was in st augustine florida the swamp one of the things we're trying to understand is the psychological makeup of the american population right now and i'm very intrigued by the sense that this most privileged empire the people there imperial people and yet both right and left they use the language of a very oppressed people are they verio pressed is there some resistance legitimate what do you think i think as i said to be far from the very beginning this country never have democracy in this country i mean how does it start there we have. dissent and we have genocide of natives and then we have you know on the women and minorities i mean that's where we started and then we somehow have this political system where you know we hear the freedom and democracy and that that we think that we have freedom in the democracy that we have to use is that we every four years that we come back to they dictate i mena and engage in that is through with a to evoke and then me to come to settle for something less they think this

st. augustine, florida, in the middle of the night. i went to planned marches with him that he was covering as a reporter. so it was an interesting upbringing as a child, to have firsthand exposure to the civil rights movement. >> host: you talk about your father's process and how antiquated it must seem now. we're standing here at the national press club 2018, the great democratization of journalism with the internet and social media. what was your father's thoughts on that as he was eyeing the end of his life? >> guest: well, he was fascinated with the new technology, and he often commented about how much easier it would have been for him to be able to do the reporting he did. but it's interesting how so many things have changed in technology for journalists and for civil rights in america. so many things in the book still resonate today. just the gumshoe reporting techniques that he used and then also many of the atrocities he witnessed in the civil rights movement. some of those resonate today. so the book is very relevant to today