st. vinnies wouldn't be here if. the phrase. but that's funny today knows all about the humor. of improbable magazine. joins me now. marc abrahams to founder of the ig nobel prize editor of the angels of improbable research magazine hi great to see you again strange times these are with me today tell me they are quite our love your hat. i've heard you say that the problem with science in general is that it takes itself too seriously and i agree that science shouldn't be all about cancer or atomic research but these things strange times but seriously looking at how things turned out this year don't you think that there is another problem which is we haven't taken science seriously enough. yes i agree with you on both counts the problem with science and everything else is people take it too seriously not seriously enough problem is that every day we hear about things that seem completely foolish and crazy and many of them are foolish and crazy but some of those will turn out to be real and important and it's difficult to tell when you 1st hear about something what it means. you k