you see the abuses in the system as it stands now, just look at stabilit this is a new permanent entitlement in this country. spending doubling on disability in the last decade, what you got almost 3489 disability claims, just last year. this huge bust in new york city of abuses among policemen and firemen, just in this past ear. this thing is going to go bust in about three yes from now. two years from now it's not getting fixed. >> you are exactly right. the thing i know, the bicker these numbers get, the 10% rule about fraud, ste, money disappearing with any contractor. the contractors that work at my house, mind you. any rule of thumb says it will disappear the numbers will get gargantuan, we never address it because it looks like we are being callous. >> i will start by saying should we clean upping improve the entitlements? of course, absolutely, we should, but i would say not -- >> they can't get a penney for them. >> no, i object, not before we rais another. you ask can we afford this? >> you know we don't do both. we never have. >> and we should. we get to make the rules. >> i don't