on the phone with us, stacey abrams.resentative, good to have you this morning. >> thank you for having me. >> so first explain if you would, we've got some time constraints, but tell us how why you want this monument off that mountain. >> this is a really challenging moment for our country when our president is condoning hatred and violence and people are losing their lives. and this is a time for leaders to stand up and say that we're capable of better. confederate monuments do not reflect what we're capable of becoming together. we can be a state where our public schools are full actually fully funded, where there are jobs in every single county, where people have access to health care. that cannot happen when we have massive monuments to hatred and bigotry and racism. >> so let me get you to respond to something that republican candidate for governor michael williams said in response to your call for that monument to be remove. i want to know where stacy draws the line. will she demand we blowup the jefferson memoria

stacey abrams governor of georgia has demanded the destruction of stone mountain the world's largestture masterpiece but it commemorates confederate figures so she wants it taken off the wall. that would put her in the same league as the taliban which you will remember blew up immense ancient stone buddhas because they offended the official ideology. if you have got views the left doesn't like, this should give you pause, especially now that police won't intervene what can't they do to you? that's a question that ought to be rattling around your head. vincent hill national police officer. former homeland security advisor for new york state and they join us now. vincent hill, to you first. why is this different from the fire department say we are not going to put your house out. it's on fire but it would be pretty dangerous if we showed up on scene. we will find out later what happened. how is this different from that? >> well, tucker, thanks for having me. i think there is a huge difference, of course, when there is a fire. there is an immediate imminent threat of a loss of life. wha

i spoke with stacey abrams a few minutes ago. >> confederate monuments have nothing to do with any ofan history, except treason and domestic terrorism. they were put up post reconstruction to terror eyes black families, to scare them because of their demand to be treated as equal american citizens. i may have issue with other parts of our american history, but there is nothing that americans should unite around more than tearing down monuments to bigotry and racism and domestic terrorism. >> well, one of her rivals for race for governor on the gop michael williams says the monuments should stay where they are. i don't want to know where she draws the line. let me make myself clear, i do not support defacing stone mountain or any of our monuments and i do not want rewriting georgia's history. joining me now michael williams, candidate for georgia govern r. did you hear there what the representative said and what's your response. >> i did and what you didn't play back was her comments after the fact when you specifically asked her to denounce the rioting and looting -- >> i asked her tw

. >> let's talk about what you're doing in georgia, stacey, representative abrams. you're supporting the idea of renuclear stone mountain confederate memorial carving. and you've gotten a response. you got one hate tweet. someone sent you a tweet saying, another crispy. clean up your black community first. that's the kind of response that you've gotten. is that emblematic to the idea that you've gotten for removing this stone mountain memorial? >> i've been incredibly gratified by the number of tweets and e-mails that i've received. smorting the idea. georgia has a very long history not tied to confederacy. the brothers who resurrected the kkk in georgia at this site in 1915 deeded the land in 1916 to the united daughters of the confederacy. and it took another 20 or something years to carve the monument. then they gave it to the state. so this is not a function of grand history. this was a monument to segregation, a monument to domestic terrorism, a monday tumt racism. over the years, georgia has grappled with this. we've taken steps of removing the confederate fla

lee and stonewall jackson.georgia democratic gubernatorial candidate stacey abrams wants it gone.staceyorial candidate"it is 2017, and now is the time for us to have a conversation about removing the last vestiges of that type of hatred and that type of vitriol toward minority communities in georgia."that's the same sentiment that led activist group "our maryland" to start a campaign to remove the roger taney statue from its current location. taney was a prominent defender of slavery.patrick murray/activist "it just shouldn't be in a place of honor like this. it belongs in a museum, not on the state house lawn."and houston mayor sylvester turner is also considering removing his city's confederate statues. mayor sylvester turnerd-houston "history has its good, history has its bad, but i do think it's important for us to review our inventory and then to make the most appropriate decision."but some say removing these items won't change attitudes in the country.bernard adams/georgia resident"it's history. that's all it is. if we talk about racism, racism isn't a symbol, it's a person."gov.