the respective ages of former vice president joe biden and stacey abrams. that's a 31-year spread. to argue that that wouldn't make a biden/abrams ticket appealing to a younger audience and one looking past 2020 to the future. joining me now is karine jean-pierre, a senior adviser to moveon.org. careen, great to see you, as always. >> you as well. >> all right. let's go through this biden g e gambit. there are two ways to interpret it. one, he wants so badly to be president he wants to have stacey abrams as the human dangle to say, look, look, if you let me have this thing i want, you can have her as my apprentice, as my number two, or that he sees himself as a stabilizing figure but he recognizes people might be concerned with his age so he wants to have somebody waiting in the wings to be vice president. are either of those things striking you are more true and do you think this gambit might work? >> yeah, i just want to add one more thing, joy. can you imagine four years ago that we would be having this conversation? that we would be talking about stacey abrams, a black woman wh

>> i don't think stacey abrams is checking a box.ician who has shown a ton of charisma, who was a very good candidate in 2018, she was able to raise a lot of money, and would be a very valuable addition to joe biden's ticket if you chose to go this way. again, there is note -- to say that she is checking a box is disrespectful here. >> mark, when i hear, she has charisma, nancy pelosi was asked about beto o'rourke and his accomplishments, and she said, he brought vitality, as if that were a qualification. >> he served on that committee, it got more experience and stacey abrams does. i take you at your word that she is a talented person ended up in, rising person, this is probably the worst thing that could happen to her, to be picked for the vice presidency, her lack of experience, she would be much better off running for senate, serving for governor, getting executive appearance, then running. >> ed: very quick last point, what about stacey abrams running on her own. is it condescending to say, maybe i'll pull her in. she could run

democratic leaders are pressing stacey abrams to run for the senate in georgia. but is she also being wooed as a running mate for potential joe biden presidential run? >> i do not know. i'm thinking about everything. i have a number of options i didn't know about before. the senate race, it's possibly running for president. >> coming up, our interview with stacey abrams right here on "andrea mitchell reports." >>> and good day. i'm andrea mitchell here in washington for betsy devos is under fire for eliminating all money from the federal budget for the special olympics, $18 milli million, a really infinitesimal part of the federal budget. a congressman from wisconsin went head to head with devos at tuesday's hearing. >> do you know how many kids are going to be affected by that cut, madam secretary? >> umm, mr. pocan, let me say again, we had to make some difficult decisions with this budget. >> again, this is a question of how many kids, not about the budget. >> i don't know the number of kids. >> it's 272,000 kids. i'll answer it for you, that's okay, no proble

i mean, the joe biden, stacey abrams ticket really puts a lot under one tent.r governor of colorado, 2020 candidate, john hickenlooper is grabbing a lot of headlines. he made a comment last night on a town hall, and i want to share it. >> governor, some of your male competitors have vowed to put a woman on the ticket. yes or no, would you do the same? >> again, of course. i'll ask you another question. >> i'm asking the questions. >> how come we're not asking more often the women would you be willing to put a man on the ticket? >> i watched this realtime. my response when i saw it is he was trying to make the point, listen, all of these women win the midterm, we have women running for president. i put it as an awkward dorky dad joke that didn't land, and it's getting taken a different way. how did you read it? >> that's what the team came out and clarified. there have been a couple of things with john hickenlooper, right out of the gate he's making a speech and he says there are a lot of things president trump has done that i don't disagree with. if you're a de

stacey abrams would bring excitement.> quickly, campaign managers and strategists, they may be concerned about having one candidate who has to make comments. there's always gaffes on the campaign trail. having to worry about two officials making comments, being out there and not jiving with one another, that could possibly be -- >> stacey abrams has a good track record. >> oh, yeah. >> i'm wondering how would that resonate with voters? from what you're hearing or your analysis of that? how would a pick like stacey abrams resonate? and how unprecedented is it for someone to come out and possibly announce a vice presidential pick so early on? >> as historians, there's no candidate who has done it this way unless they're an incumbent. it's very sort of unprecedented. the voter question really fascinates. why they want to go public. we and other reporters are starting to hear about it, test the waters. what kind of reaction would we get? stacey abrams was a rising star in the democratic party. she delivered the response to pr

to play stacey abrams.ore brilliant than i. i'm hopeful she will run for governor again against brian kemp or in 2020. this is a new wrinkle if this question is asked of her. if baccari sellers gets the phone call, let's say this, add another wrinkle playing early morning gamesmanship, what if joe biden promises you he only stays for one term, that makes it more attractive. that's what makes the primary cycle 300 days from iowa so exciting. >> what's interesting not we're playing the game but biden advisors are raising the possibility before getting into the race. elizabeth warren, last night, big applause line for getting rid of the electoral college or making an end run around it, something we're hearing in democratic politics. i don't want to burst anyone's bubble, it's not going to happen, not right now. why is it an effective argument for democrats to make? >> clearly because of what happened in 2 of the last 5 presidential campaigns in terms of the electoral college which means democrats have won the

don't forget, andrew gillum, stacey abrams, beto o'rourke, they came close.ey all lost. and where did democrats do pretty well? they did pretty well in ohio, where they held a senate seat, wisconsin, where they held a senate seat, pennsylvania where they held a senate seat, also did well in governors' races and i'm leaving out michigan, another important state. what democrats need to do is sort of decide, and this is what the primary's about, is sort out what they're all about and what exactly they believe. i think one thing that the candidates would be smart to do that are running for president, it's not so much that you don't try and satisfy your progressive base if you're a democrat, but you don't want to look like you're a follower. and so, alexandria ocasio-cortez, for instance, has a lot of ambition and a lot of ambitious policies. they shouldn't all jump on the bandwagon to agree with everything she says. they need to be proactive and say actually, i don't agree with that, but this is what i agree with. here's how i'm going lead. ultimately it attracts

let's look at joe biden and stacey abrams. this is highly unusual. kind of reeks of desperation. were you not listening to me, niger? >> it speaks of where the heart and soul of today's democratic party is. the centrist democrat is a dying species. the heart and soul of the democratic party is what i call the sisters of socialism. that being omar, ocasio-cortez, and congresswoman tlaib. they are the spiritual leaders of the democratic part crane avowed socialist bernie sanders. that's why joe biden who seemed to be a little bit more of a centrist had this desperation move of ultra liberal socialist stacey abrams. susan: robin, don't chuckle. i can see you. >> i have given you a lot of fodder there. susan: name recognition we know joe has. if you are going to bring in a vice president this far out what does that say? >> it's probably a good strategy because let's face it. as of today there are 2006 democrats who filed to run for president. thankfully only 16 have qualified to be on the dnc debate stage. so he's trying to set himself apart. he's trying

debating the idea of packaging his presidential campaign announcement with a pledge to choose stacey abramsstion this, craig, for two reasons. i mean, typically, somebody who is running for presidency. when you start to think about who your running mate is going to be. you typically think about someone who can help broaden your coalition. >> yeah. >> someone that can bring in new voters that you may have a difficult time attracting. obviously, stacey abrams would shore up african-americans. particularly african-american women which the party needs but i just wonder if they're betting too much on biden's ability to speak to the voters who voted for president obama the second time and crossed over to vote for president trump in 2016 against hillary clinton. i think they're banking on his ability to readistract those voters. and they need to be careful with that. >> dana, this is how jim clyburn reacted to the idea. >> i think it would be a mistake for joe biden to come out, or any other candidate, and announce a running mate right out of the gate. that's taking a lot for granted. >> yeah. i m

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stacey abrams is a formidable politician in her own right.e going to look at this, hold on, why is she given a chance to run herself and why is she put in the secondary position. >> i have been saying it for a while. as much as i like beto o'rourke, i didn't think he did anything that was outstanding that was disqualifying for gillum and stacey stacey abrams. biden is the sort of person that has some staffing decisions down, folks were waiting for him to come into the racism well, he still got to win this thing. it is not lot for him and you don't want to put someone like stacey and has risen to some extent. you don't want to put her in a box either. >> what about the decision and you never know. you never know what could come about that in the future. why would you hamstring yourself this early on. >> that's true. >> you know way out of and waves away. >> it is march 2019. >> from anybody going antonio t antonio -- into the polls. they cannot keep the momentum of that decision going for the rest of this year. > probably not. there is no need

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we saw last week the vice president had lunch with stacey abrams.wed some of the speculation that that might be something he'll consider. what sources in the highest level of the biden political operation tell me that yes, the potential option of choosing a vice president early in the process is on the table. it's one of 12 to 20 unconventional ideas they're considering as they look at the possible announcement. they also push back strongly on the idea that he did in fact offer the vice presidency to stacey abrams this week. this would be something that would land at the end of the day. i asked jim clyburn this and he was very clear on his view, he said it would be a mistake for joe biden or anybody else who is thinking about running for president to name a running mate this early, that it's seen perhaps as taking things for granted in terms of the viability of their own candidacy. >> very interesting. jeff mason, how is the white house thinking about a potential joe biden bid? we've repeated many times that he's somebody that the president is conce

and stacey abrams is a star on her own. biden right now. >> matthew, that's a part of this that just comes across as indecisive. and that's not good in a commander in chief. >> biden's aides are making his points for him. first, we had, he can't raise the grassroots money that bernie and beto have. then we have, oh, well, hep doesn't get the enthusiasm with young people and people of color, so we're going to come out of the gate with stacey abrams as our running mate. if hep wants to be president, he should ignore the chatter in d.c., which is talking about all the reasons why he's going to have trouble, and make an affirmative case for his candidacy. he's not done that. >> shouldn't he just show up in the scooby van in council bluffs without anybody noticing? that's what he ought to do. >> as long as he shows up to chipotle. >> a pontiac, not a scooby van. >> it better be the transam, actually. but that's what it feels like. you have to shock the system. do something that you're not used to somebody like him doing. >> if y

ran an ad touting democrat stacey abrams' record on criminal justice. >> and stacey abrams will end dependencee prisons, saving millions that could instead be used for treatment. >> we were so destroyed as a family. >> a.c.l.u. does not endorse or oppose candidates. >> ira glasser: they ran an ad which you could show to 1,000 people, and 1,000 people would say, if you asked them, "oh, that's a political ad for stacey abrams." >> stahl: ira glasser spent 34 years at the a.c.l.u.-- 23 of them as executive director. he believes the a.c.l.u.'s involvement in candidate races haos partisanship, and he's concerned enough about it to speak out. >> glasser: i think it's strategically weakening its mission. the best strategy of protecting civil liberties is not to be partisan. >> stahl: the current leadership of the a.c.l.u. would say, what they're really doing is just telling you where stacey abrams stands on issues, and where her opponent-- >> glasser: no, but that's not what they're doing. there's nobody could look at that ad and not think it was a campaign ad for stacey abrams. it was. look, we are

stacey abrams as a running mate? that makes things a lot more interesting, huh?ld white man, young black woman? that combo works for every nursing home, why not the white house? yeah. it works. and don't worry, i can make that joke. i was made by the same combination of people. ( laughter ) but seriously, in politics, you want a balanced ticket. it works out. i mean, it worked for president trump. he's a puss syrian-israel he's d mike pence as a smooth gentleiary going on. joe biden is, like, guys, what if i ran for president? okay, what if i ran with stacey abrams? all right, what if it was just me but with a jheri curl? what do you say? ( laughter ) in a way i don't blame biden. it's the same technique i used on my ma'am -- what if i told you i left my school bag on the bus? then i would spank you! i would be, like, yes, of course. what if i told you my bag was stolen on the bus? then i will spank you and tell you go find who stole it. what if the bus was on fire, i had to escape but left my bag. then i'm grateful you're alive. that's the one i'm going with. i'

i just mention him as a possible stacey abrams vice presidential pick.e're possibly a week from him announcing? >> he's tried to clean up last night to a women's group, talking about the mistreatment of anita hill during the clarence thomas confirmation hearings and he blew it. it was a botch. he gets up there. first he says, i wish i could have given her the kind of hearing she deserved. you're the chairman, dude. you could have given her any hearing you wanted. then he sort of passed off the problem, that we live in a white male world, white man's world. like, you're a white man, man. we heard the former mayor of new york, bloomberg, we heard him make fun of biden before, that he's doing this apology tour. it's one thing to do an apology tour, but it's another thing to do an apology tour poorly. say you erred, say it simply an move off of it. for goodness sakes, don't act like you're the victim, too. >> dana: any doubt in your mind that he's going to announce that he's running for president? >> i maintain considerable doubt. seems like this is a guy ma

last week vice president biden met with stacey abrams. of speculation about what that meeting was about. here's what i can tell you. that meeting was about 90 minutes long. a lunch between the two of them. just them alone in that room. and so i didn't get an outright denial that he offered her the position of a running mate but every indication and another source told me they asked biden was no offer about the vice presidency was made to stacey abrams. they are telling me there's a number of unconventional ideas they're considering as they get ready for a potential april launch. a vp pick is one of them. but south carolina would be a critical state for joe biden if he runs in the primary. no one knows south carolina democratic primaries better than clyburn. very strong advice suggesting that would be a mistake would carry a lot of weight with biden's team. >> mike used the term unconventional. the idea that the former vp's team is considering. that borders are gimmicky. is there a risk for biden? >> there's certainly a risk. i'm hearing f

why did you choose stacey abrams? there's a risk here because she's at what a lot of people are saying the apex of her career and she has a lot of options in choosing someone like biden immediately could limit her. there's no guarantee that he would be the nominee if he runs. >> what's has come out of the biden camp? he does tend to say thing when -- i don't know. >> what do you mean? >> shepard: you know, he sort of kind of said i'm going to run the other day without meaning to say it parentally, unless that was a gimmick. i wondered if they had responded anyway about this notion. >> when we -- for the reporting, my colleague, mike allen, he spoke with advisers to the former vice president, not with joe biden himself. but everyone that is close to biden said that he's 95% there. this announcement is eminent. i think that on top of it now, it's just trying to figure out what are the best ways to enter this in a way that shows he has great chances. that's the big take-away here. someone like joe biden who has 40-plus y

. >> mike, let's stock about stacey abrams, she seemed to be dropping some hints this week that she'sng. >> yeah, that's absolutely right. this is a candidate when we talk about beto, this is a candidate who ran for a statewide office, in his case the u.s. senate, and was not successful. yet there's this outpouring of excite democrats thinking he would be a great presidential candidate. there are a lot of people asking why is there not that same excitement about stacey abrams who ran for governor of georgia, came very close to forcing a runoff if not winning outright. she in many ways is the future of the party. african-american women make up the most loyal skpit aens. there are a lot of strategists who think the best thing stacey abrams can do is run for senate in georgia in 2020. they think they have a chance of potentially picking up that seat in a state that's trending more purple. but if you're stacey abrams and you hear a lot of people talking about beto o'rourke for president, you have to think why not me. >> guys, thanks very much. garrett haake, mike memoli covering the campa

as for stacey abrams, let me just say this. there is an important point to make here which is that she did better against the baseline expectation than beto o'rourke did in texas. and the fact that we haven't talked about her as a viable national candidate does say something i think about race and gender in this country. >> she did give the opposition state of the union response. >> the bedrock voting demographic, as we know, is black women, and i think she would have obviously a lot of connections to that community. >> if she launches, she would be at the top. we'll be interviewing her next week. >> excite. >> or in two weeks. >> i'll be watching. >> you should watch he ever dev sam. mark marry, anne gearan, thank you so much, and mike memoli, of course. harold, great to see you from the firefighters association conference in washington. when joe biden decided not to run, you and i were sitting together on the set, you were on the show. do you think the decision will be more positive from your at some point this time around? >

stacey abrams as well as kamala harris.n't focused on. look at the numbers. hillary clinton didn't need the working class white man to win that election if black voters and hispanic voters had come out in the numbers they had in past elections. that's why biden will do well with working class white voters, it's not bad to get somebody that can re-energize the base that helps drive democrats to victory in these elections. >> adrian, thank you very much for coming on. heidi, thank you as well. >>> coming up, a former white house aide who sat outside the oval office for the first year of the trump presidency is now set to be >>> welcome to ""morning joe." beautiful not so beautiful. new york is always beautiful. formerly white house communications director and trump confidante hope hicks will reportedry cooperate with the house judiciary committee investigation into the president. according to cnn, the committee is seeking documents relating to michael flynn's false statements to fbi, the firing of james comey. trumps involvem

stacey abrams indicated this week that she's rethinking. she's taking herself out of the running, suggesting she might make the race. i think her addition would be electric and important. there's some talk of andrew gillm thinking about it as well. he's going to make an announcement march 20th. i think that's an expression of the sense this race could use more people and with beto o'rourke, obviously he got in today. i think he has to do a much better job of defining himself and saying why he's there and quote on quote needed in this race. but somebody that covered the texas race in 2018, i was powerfully struck by many of the innovations he brought to our politics. i think keep an eye on him because my sense is what he would bring to this race is, hopefully, policy stances, which are much clearer and a different way of campaigning. and i think people are open to that. >> that campaign was a remarkably built machine to fund raising and the miles covered. as to the sort of policies, i thought thissancer to the question of medicare for all he

but i haven't seen stacey abrams on the cover of jvanity fair. i haven't seen her get the kind of treatment that beto o'rourke has got so far. that has a lot do with race and gender and it's something that beto o'rourke is going to have to grapple with, the idea that someone who did raise $80 million lost against ted cruz, how is it that all of the sudden he thinks he's qualified or has enough accomplishments to be president? i don't think he would get the same sort of confidence and sort of embrace for a woman or african american or minority candidate. >> jim, your thoughts. >> we have a story out this morning about beto's announcement and one of the key questions, guidys, i'm wonderin is can he scale up from his senate campaign? what was so striking about the lead-up to this announcement is that it was kind of a diy job. he is his own manager and spokesman in a lot of ways. that's what happened last year during the campaign. and it was certainly the case this year. he was personally calling a lot of would be campaign staffers asking them to wor

call it is stacey abrams primary, a recent lunch touched off speculation and headlines like this. win he needs abrams now. abrams ha abrams has also met with booker, harris and elizabeth warren as well as hickenlooper and spoke by phone with major pete buttigeig. he says the attention showered on his presidential campaign after losing to ted cruise hasn't gone unnoticed. >> i think race plays a part. i think region plays a part. >> i want people to understand it does not diminish my capacity for it to run for this job. >> interesting words there that she said herself that others have been talking about. why has she not been getting as much attention as o'rourke is. >> so she is saying as well she thinks a woman or a snominority will win the primary. she doesn't should he. >> exactly. i'm told by a number of people that do believe she will likely run for the senate. it is something she said i have not thought about but something that presents itself. who knows what she thinks of all of the bright lights now. she is on a bit of a publicity tour if you will. we'll see. as of now most

particularly from the party that was horrified, stacey abrams is at the top of vp list? that quite a turnabout. kennedy: biden does have name recognition. but kamala harris is making big moves, do you think she is in a better position than some other democrat candidates who scheduled out of the gate? >> you know i don't know who you thinking of stalled out of the gate, i see so many people. you think -- kennedy: no one is talking about them. >> i don't think that we began the process, you have to give them some chance opportunity to gain some traction. but if you look at bernie and beto, they have raised money like unbelievable. right out the box. there is an interest on the democratic side in upcoming democratic primary election. and i will -- >> i think that kamala harris is the most pivotal person in this race. >> you do, you told me that, i have to say, you are a californian. >> not because i like her, i disagree with her on most things, i would never vote for her, but looking at a political perspective she has a better game. she has a natural vp pick for someone lik

i know stacey abrams would like me to tell the people to wait. >> all right. we'll leave that cliffhanger for our viewers. >> thank you. >> thank you. >>> all right. on a very serious note this week weekend, we're continuing to follow the terror attack on two mosques in new zealand, sparking new discussions about the rise of far right extremism. and the internet's role in spreading hateful views. a former neo nazi is going to join us live next to discuss what can be done to stop the spread of far-right ideology. live in the cnn newsroom. don't go anywhere. martphone. i became an engineer because of them. now i'm at verizon building a powerful 5g experience for america. we call it 5g ultra wideband. when i think of where people might go with it... i think of them. (man over radio) ...go for landing. ♪ ♪ ahhhh! ♪ we're here. ♪ ♪ [boy gasps] for real cold and flu protection with lysol, you can help protect them from a real cold. lysol disinfectant spray kills the #1 cause of the cold and clorox wipes don't. lysol. what it takes to protect. i that's the retirement

>>> coming up on "cbs this morning," we will talk with former georgia gubernatorial candidate stacey abramsers running for president. >>> plus, more on nasa's decision to cancel an all-female space walk at the international space station. >>> and in our series "profiles in service," we'll take you to camp pendleton where more women are taking part in critical combat operations. >>> that's the "cbs this morning" for this wednesday. thanks for watching. i'm anne-marie green. have a great day. ♪ >>> live from the cbs bay area studios, this is kpix 5 news. >>> good morning, everyone. it is wednesday, march 27. we are taking a live look at the beautiful coit tower this morning. it is very early, so wipe the sleep out of your eyes, wake up with us and join us for the show. i am michelle griego. >> get your coffee, too. i am kenny choi. it is 4:30 am. storm watch. it feels like the 30th round this year already. >> it has been a wet wiscol. here is a live look with high def doppler. you can see the rain for the north bay and moderate to heavy rain from he

does donald trump beat stacey abrams? >> yeah, i have to say. is stepping down. now with the reports of no collusion. i think he will get reelected. but, look, i disagree with stacey be abrams on her policyi think she is qualified. and smart, and a yale graduate a lawyer, a small business owner, owner,10 years in georgia. but, her emphasis on race and ethnicity harm her. she within on a radio show said people don't think i am viable because i am a black woman with natural hair, it is opposite right now, this is a double-edge sword you want people to vote for you because of your policies, not because of youringness -- our ethnicity or not your hair style or anything. >> he is real bad news. i think that abrams did not do herself a lot of favors by holding off on -- for as long as she dpeople look at that behavior on national stage say we had enough. >> a -- little. >> >> race and gender don't matter and they should not play a role in politics. that is putting your head to the . >> the panel will be here after the break some still are demanding the

difference if we don't bring the lawsuits and win them, if we don't register everybody the way stacey abrams has been doing since 2014. [applause] hillary clinton: just think about it. between 2012, the prior presidential election where was the heavy voting rights act, and 2016, when my name was on the ballot, there were fewer voters registered in georgia than there had been those prior four years. think about it, my friends. mission.e a calling, a effortsto redouble our for the 21st century civil rights movement. don't just come to selma once a year. don't just walk across the bridge. don't just join hands and sing. we have got to get to work. and that means registering every them nond persuading matter how discouraged they might be that their future depends on them showing up to vote. voting for leaders who will respect them and listen to them and work for them and produce for them. 54tht us celebrate this anniversary, but let us not mistake what our mission must be . faithcome from a tradition of being a doer, not just a hearer of the word. and i know that if we do our back thisan take co

>> my opinion about stacey abrams getting into this race, i think she does best on supertuesday largelyshe was down there exciting people most recently. i think she kind of gets that vote right now for me. in terms of who can sweep, i agree with cornell. i think that -- i don't rule out biden just because there are enough people who are trying to cobble together and competing for those african-american voters in that region that might leave a plurality, they might go for him, they might go for beto. i'm not a pollster so i leave it to my friend to give us the expert advice. my gut tells me, it is so early, we are going to be surprised come next february. >> yes or no question, do castro and beto cancel each other out? >> no. but i will say this quickly, whoever we know is a front runner has not done well in our primaries. so look out. >> that was not one word. thank you, guys very much. the rachel maddow show starts right now. >> you hit it on the post. boom. both feet on the tape. >> stuck the landing. >> thanks to you all at home for joining us this hour. happy friday. this have been

if stacey abrams wants to be on the ticket she should be on the ticket of her own volition.as to be -- whoever the nomty nominee is, the person has to be on the ticket because they want to be on the ticket and they bring something to the ticket and not part as a gimmick or novelty. >> tokenism. >> in short, yes. >> yes. mike, when is he going to do it? you maintain that this entire conversation may be for naught because you think there's still a significant percentage chance of joe biden at the 11th hour decides he doesn't want to do it. >> the plan is we're about to turn the calendar into april. that was the month when they envisioned an announcement. whenever i talk to biden's advisors, some more than others always have that little bit of doubt. he did think it was too early to announce, you can baeto o'rourk gaining steeam. if he begins to think there isn't a path for him to win, he might think against it. >> thank you. >>> let's go now to the white house. let's go down to 1600 pennsylvania avenue. kelly o'donnell is standing by i'm told. kelly o., president trump, we're

and i think karen is right, it would not be fair to stacey abrams.d be able to run on her own two feet. >> jonathan capehart, david drucker, thanks to both of you. >>> coming up, a look at robert mueller's investigation. we'll talk to presidential historian michael beschloss. cha. before you and your rheumatologist move to another treatment, ask if xeljanz xr is right for you. xeljanz xr is a once-daily pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well enough it can reduce pain, swelling and further joint damage, even without methotrexate. xeljanz xr can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections, and cancers, including lymphoma, have happened. as have tears in the stomach or intestines, serious allergic reactions, low blood cell counts, higher liver tests and cholesterol levels. don't start xeljanz xr if you have an infection. your doctor should perform blood tests before and while taking xeljanz xr, and monitor certain liver tests. tell your doctor if you've b

>> if you're stacey abrams today, you're happy. everybody's talking about her. she is just an extraordinary human being. to come within a whisper -- a whisker of winning the governorship in that state and honestly, the guy that she ran against some people feel like he didn't run fairly and then most people do not survive when they come out -- i'm going to be the democrat who speaks after the president's state of the union. that's usually when people's careers end. she did great. i think it makes a lot of sense for her to bask in this adulation from the party. i think it keeps going forward. for her as well, in some ways it's the worst of all possible worlds. you're not the candidate but you'll be getting scrutinized and beaten up as if you are and for so long. this is not a great idea. i think it's a good signal from biden that he cares about diversity, et cetera, but, you know, most of the people say, look, i'm going to pick a diverse vp choice. cory booker says he'll pick a woman. that might be far enough. >> we'll tune in. you've got a big guest coming up thi

that's something i've heard from voters across campaign rallies, who talked about what stacey abramso them in 2018 and the role she could play going forward in 2020. but voter suppression was on the top of everyone's mind here. all the candidates spoke about it. take a listen to what they had to say. >> you cannot preach right and do wrong. you can't come to selma to remember what happened in the past and leave here and forget the obligations of the present. >> real populism is never racist. real populism is never anti-semitic. real populism doesn't divide people. real populism doesn't push some people down to lift others up. >> now, democracy and the right to vote is not some esoteric intellectual concept. it's our turn to demand that we end all voter suppression in this country. >> reporter: and so yes, this is about remembering what has happened here during the self-rights movement. but there's also a desire to mobilize the energy of this group of people who are here today remembering this and put it toward voting in 2020 and all of the elections beyond that. >> all right. ally vi

stacey abrams joins us first on "cbs this morning" since her book was reissued.-- >> i did. i did, indeed. >> it was the thinking about running lunch. and you said -- you talked about the presidency and what it means. >> i absolutely -- >> what does the presidency mean right now? >> i think the presidency is about reaasserting who we are as a nation, our capacity for cohesion, and our ability to talk about marginalized abilities with those who are outsiders without excluding the majority. there's a false dichotomy that you can talk about those left out or talk about those who feel like they're being left out, but you can't talk about both. one of the vibrant warts of -- parts of our conversation was i believe you can talk about identity and that means you can include everyone. everyone wants to be seen, and the best politicians are the ones who can bring people together, not by pretending we all have the same issues, but by recognizing the obstacles that some of us face and the opportunities that all of us want. >> is this the -- you're saying that's challenge fo

the suggestion that maybe he chooses stacey abrams from georgia.uestion. >> i think the vice president is different. he has 100% name recognition. he also has 40 years of things he's voted on and said. with respect to him, his biggest struggle is going through the primary. he's the best general election candidate. it would be a brilliant move for him. but thinking about those that are not worth while or could be vice president, i mean, kamala harris and amy klobuchar, they're all quality. i think they're taking the idea that we have great candidates and would you take one if you were president. he's being asked because he would have won the primary. >> dana: the last word. >> the democrats are absolutely obsessed with identity politics. they're all about that. i think that that will hurt them very substantially when it comes to 2020. we're seeing that now in the primary. we want people running i think that will do the best thing for america. i don't know that any of those people that robert just mentioned fit that bill. >> dana: your accent is a th

axios reported today biden's advisers are debating stacey abrams as an out of the gate vp choice. she lost her race for georgia governor, she's said all options are on the table for 2020. according to axios. the popular georgia democrat who at age 45 is 31 years younger than biden would bring diversity and excitement to the ticket. showing voters that biden isn't just another old white guy. new york times adds this, also under decision is a possible pledge to serve only one term. and framing mr. biden's 2020 campaign as a one-time rescue mission for a beleaguered country. so much to discuss. so little time. at least we have a.b. stoddard and anita kumar to do so. desperate or genius. >> i'm acknowledging my potential liabilities and he won't do this, or it's really stupid. he really shouldn't do it. there is so much consensus to be formed in the democratic primary electorate. what if he paired up with stacey abrams now and down the road she calls for impeachment depending on something stumbling out of the southern district of new york. you can't cement this pairing this early. but

. >> stacey abrams flat out saying 2020 is on the table, a run for president and beto o'rourke going this weekend, which, to me, is everything you need to know. >> both bad news for chuck schumer, john, who would desperately love both candidates to run for competitive senate seats and raise lots of money for texas. stacey abrams keeping it on the table, a fascinating move and beta o'rourke we expect to announce later this week and in iowa. keep an eye where he goes in iowa, not a des moines, cedar rapids trip. we think he will be in more rural parts of iowa, places where obama won and then trump won. >> fascinating to watch. thank you very much. >>> how are democratic leaders responding to president trump's baseless claim democrats are anti-jewish? we will ask the chair of the democratic campaign committee next. o san marcos, costa rica. and meet sergio. that's his daughter, maria. sergio's coffee tastes spectacular. because costa rica's land is spectacular. so we support farmers like sergio. who use natural compost. made from coffee pulp. it helps keeps the soil healthy. and the cof

stacey abrams was asked about her 2020 plans. >> let's play a quick game. i will give you a year and you give me the job and task. >> i am really old, so, go ahead. >> 2020. >> you think you're clever. my task is to make sure a democratic is elected and democratic majority in senate and congress. >> stacey abrams said 2020 is on the table. beto o'rourke is supporting a candidate for the state senate. the trip is adding to him joining the presidential race before the end of the month. former vice president joe biden spoke to the union of firefighters in washington. here's how he was received. >> thank you, thank you. i appreciate the energy you are s showing. save it a little longer. i may need it in a few weeks. >> speak of 2020. climate change is a big issue. president trump brought it back to the forefront and retweeted a quote from a fox and friends guest who denied climate change was caused by humans or is a threat. >> the whole climate crisis is not only fake news, but fake science. there is no climate crisis. there is weather and climate all around th

democrats win the south, penetrate some of the hard red states in the south, when we look at what stacey abramsif there had been not some interference she would have won that election. andrew gillum did. can the democrats win the south? >> well -- >> you have been in louisiana -- >> i was lieutenant governor elected twice. the state went bright red and abrams is a spectacular talent as is andrew gillum. both of those folks got unbelievably close and they ran wonderful elections so i think florida is in play. i think georgia could be in play. i think mississippi and alabama are a little bit tough and louisiana. however, it depends on who the candidate is, who the running mate is. i happen to think america is going to be really tired of president trump by the time this thing rolls around. we kind of thought we knew who he was. now we know we know who he is. so this election isn't about him but what we are, what we want. almost everybody on our side is better than him. and the country needs to kind of get ready to start preparing itself for the future. he's not the future, he's the past. he said s

he's going to have her go out on the campaign trail, stacey abrams as his vp.ho says she's going to say yes? she's probably on the short-list for a lot of things. seems like a fake trial balloon. i love the vp sweepstakes. they jockey for position. the unveiling. you are missing all that earned media when you pick someone already. >> dana: got a lot of content in there, jesse. >> jesse: i am a content guide. >> dana: juan, which would you like to take first? >> juan: the problem i have with this is the premise because it seems to me that the way you campaigned in 2019 is not the way you campaign in 2016, let's say or 1976. for younger crowd versus an older, mostly white, even somewhat retired crowd that you can reach through cable or "the new york times," the crowd that the democrats are after is a younger crowd and you've got to reach them in innovative ways through social media, through radio programs and i bet a lot of folks who are trump supporter's wouldn't even know. we've got a get out there and hold rallies and do things that will break through for amer

axios reported today biden's advisers are debating stacey abrams as an out of the gate vp choice.or georgia governor, she's said all options are on the table for 2020. according to axios. the popular georgia democrat who at age 45 is 31 years younger than biden would bring diversity and excitement to the ticket. showing voters that biden isn't just another old white guy. new york times adds this, also under decision is a possible pledge to serve only one term. and framing mr. biden's 2020 campaign as a one-time rescue mission for a beleaguered country. so much to discuss. so little time. at least we have a.b. stoddard and anita kumar to do so. desperate or genius. >> i'm acknowledging my potential liabilities and he won't do this, or it's really stupid. he really shouldn't do it. there is so much consensus to be formed in the democratic primary electorate. what if he paired up with stacey abrams now and down the road she calls for impeachment depending on something stumbling out of the southern district of new york. you can't cement this pairing this early. but i think this conver