miss stackelberg. >> similar arguments to that were raised when president obama decided that he would considering lifting the ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in the military, one of our nation's largest employers. and people said, this shouldn't be a one size fits all. we have men and women in fox holes together. this is not what we should have. we should have people on submarines and sexual orientation will absolutely undermine morale and unit cohesion and we haven't seen that come to pass. >> i'm going to move on now. several commissioners want to ask questions. commissioner herot. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i guess i wanted to ask about this notion that this can be intercepted in unpredictable or counterproductive ways. you mentioned that some corporations have adopted similar language but they get to interpret their own policies and they won't have that luxury if there's an congressional enactment. the chairman just mentioned that title 7 has worked out well. i guess i would disagree with that. we need title 7, but there are lots of ways in which it has been intercepted i