bill grady at kmbc, stacy kaiser and eric richmond. bill, the new arrest, daryl mohler, that's the father's brother. but he's claiming innocence here, huh? >> he is claiming, yeah, as a matter of fact, mike, he is claiming innocence. he is claiming he has had very little contact with his brother. when he made his first appearance it was a deer in the headlights situation. he said he didn't know anything about this. he was a retired guy in florida and just living a quiet life and doesn't know where any of this came from. >> did one of the alleged victims come forward and say it was him? >> there is a total of seven victims. i was told over the weekend at least four or five more are expected. he has been named by at least one. again, this is one of those things you can well appreciate, mike, the authorities are holding close to the vest about who said what about whom and when it occurred. >> let's go to eric richmond, our attorney. help us out and the viewers as well. how are you going to prove this? these crimes could be 20 years old, 1

let's bring in stacy kaiser and jim moret. stacy, let's first off get back to what rihanna is talking about, falling in love, turning into an obsession. how common is that among young people, a young couple like this? >> well, it's very common with young people, but they aren't really falling in love. what she's describing that the rest of us would call that intense passion where it makes for a great happy times and also really volatile violent times. >> and young people are more susceptible to that, i would think? just not mature enough to handle those feelings, right? >> and you get older, you get wiser, more jaded and less accepting of that sort of stuff. >> let's listen a little bit more to rihanna talking about what led to this infamous incident. a text message from another girl. let's listen to rihanna again. >> i caught him in a lie -- and he wouldn't -- he wouldn't tell the truth. i wouldn't drop it. i wouldn't drop it. i kept saying i couldn't take that he kept lying to me and he couldn't take that i wouldn't drop it.

senior editor for "in touch weekly" and stacy kaiser. before we delve into this, let's listen to rihanna, part of an interview with abc news. it will be played in full friday night on "20/20." here's re hanna. >> when i realized that my selfish decision for love could result into some young girl getting killed, i could not -- i could not be easy with that part. i couldn't be held responsible for telling them, go back. even if chris never hit me again, who's to say that their boyfriend won't? who's to say that they won't kill these girls? >> an emotional rihanna there. want to bring in jane. jane, i applaud her. you can hear the emotions that she would -- as she said, it was a selfish decision to go back but she peeled herself out of that for the good of others who may have followed suit. >> i totally applaud her as well, mike. when she first went back to chris brown after the beating, after we saw that horrific picture of her face just bruised and battered, there was an outcry. and she really became the poster child for a while for batte

we're going to go back to stacy kaiser, our psychotherapist. stacy, i think you were bringing up a good point there, not just one, because in a sense of desperation, oh, not that i'm absolving this, but we're trying to get into her mind here, that she would rob one bank. what happens where it all of a sudden becomes two, three, four bank robberies here. >> i do think there's a bit of a rush that comes out of it. but i think she had some success. she was thinking she got away with it. not only did she rob these banks, but she went in with just a hoodie and no face mask. that's cavalier to think you can walk in and take money and not get recognized. >> let's go back to antonio castelan, reporter xetv covering this. what more do we know about this lady? is there any kind of criminal past? any behavior that might say, oh, it might lead to this. >> we checked her out and she shows no criminal record whatsoever. many of her friends say she's been a good woman. she's never been in trouble at all. >> there you go. i want to read a facebook comment. ther

let's bring in stacy kaiser, our psychotherapist and also with us jim moret, chief correspondent "inside edition." first get back to what re hanna is talking about falling in love turning into an obsession. how common is that among young people? >> it's very common, but they aren't really falling in love. what she's describing that the rest of us would call would be that intense passion where it makes for great, happy times and also really volatile violent times. >> and young people more susceptible to that, i would think, just not mature enough to handle those feelings, right? >> i think that's part of it. you get older. you get wiser. you get more jaded and less accepting of that sort of stuff. >> let's listen to more of rihanna talking about what led to this infamous incident, a text message from another girl. let's listen to rihanna again. >> i caught him in a lie. and he wouldn't -- he wouldn't tell the truth. i wouldn't drop it. i wouldn't drop it. i kept saying i couldn't take that he was lying to me. he couldn't take that i wouldn't drop it. >> stays yishg as you listen to that,

kaiser and cleveland city councilman zach reed. we will take your calls. 1-877-tell-hln is the phone number. stacy, when we hear this, how could someone be accused of killing at least 11 but on the other hand you have a girlfriend saying he took good care of me. how is that? >> well, taking good care of somebody is very relative. good care of in her mind is he fed her and put a roof over her head. i would want to get to the bottom of what was so great about their relationship. >> michelle, in your years of covering cases, have you ever heard anything like that? >> no. >> someone accused of something so heinous and someone saying good boyfriend? >> no. i sure haven't. this case just blows my mind, really. to have this many bodies literally rotting inside of the house. one of the victims was reported missing in 2007 and could have been in the house for as long as two years. up until that point it is very disturbing. just got word that the eighth and the ninth victims have been identified. i want to give you their names right now. janice webb and kim yvette smith. cadaver dogs are searching through t

and stacy kaiser, psychotherapist. stacy, how does this poor woman even come remotely to cope with this? losing a son and watching her husband do this? >> this is really a double loss for her. because she's not only lost her son, but she's lost whatever semblance of a husband she had before this. and so this is something where she's going to really have to rally the support of other friends and family to get through it. >> yeah. let's get dave jordan in on this. dave, let's get this straight now. the doctor, the father was saying his little 9-year-old was the devil? that was the motive here? >> well, that's according to the 911 tape that you just played, mike. it's also according to the affidavit in this case. the policeman who was on the scene said that his 9-year-old was reportedly the devil. and that the father, steven wolf, dr. steven wolf of nichols hills, stand him at least twice because dr. wolf claimed he is indeed the devil. what's interesting to note is the police officers have gotten a search warrant where th