last year i've worked with stacy schiff. that was an enormous pleasure i worked with peter brown on his ardor for sam phillips, the founder of -- sun records. i'm not going to get someone else the pleasure of working with this brilliant writers. and i worked with james patterson. i love keeping a connection with james patterson on the page level in addition to on the business level. >> so michael pietsch, james patterson has become quite an industry, quite a force in the publishing world in other ways. have you been part of that? >> i've been working with james patterson since going on 20 years. i started working with him as an editor and you still polishing one book to you. estimate that i became his editor at the time he became up with the idea of publishing -- he finished with a time aside to publishing is one book a year, same month, serious packaging, bestsellers, works. it did work. he came up with this idea, and i to say that the executives at the time, whoever saw the company, just said that's crazy talk. this works.