you are on with author stacy schiff. caller: hey, stacy. i really enjoyed your program this morning. i was curious about if you consider about writing about rome or alexander hamilton, either one. just for your information, you do not look like you are 61. thank you. stacy: [laughter] host: why ava perrone or alexander hamilton? that is quite a combination. caller: i was always interested in her. i wrote -- i read a book on alexander hamilton. he was really interesting. if they were ever to -- i cannot remember the author right now, but it was about a 700 page book and it was great. they should put that in all the schools in the united states. something is wrong with the united states, i am telling you. thanks you. stacy: thank you, buddy. that 700 page book is by john turnout. it is a spellbinding 700 pages. because of it, i would never write on alexander hamilton because i think that book is superb and unlikely to be rivaled. what is an interesting idea, i have had trouble getting my mind around writing about someone there i do not speak

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moment at the same samuel adams, who was finally his due reaches to the in the recent book by stacy schiff. but the voice of reason was also what needed to be in the room so that we could have these conversations and get their slowly and reasonably without any further objections. so i think that's that's the answer to that. so he i think he he needed to be who he was. so yes, please. out there. and to that is that where he spent his later years so we a question about stone hearst the the waltham estate of robert treat paine junior and lew and lydia lyman payne built in the 1880s built by robert treat paine the signers great grandson name for him his namesake. yes. so there are artifacts there like a declaration, independence on display, a kind of decorative copy of it and so on. so the connection is there. he was quite proud of it. needless to say. so, yes, sir. mr. greco to. tom, at one point you mentioned. with good reason the fact that there were two halves to america as it was trotting along create the freedom and liberty. what do you think is the lesson we should take from what you ha