erica has a very small stafkcaa. they need resources and infrastructure do this. resource is hard. how do you use an audit log. how do you use it effectively. how do you access controls especially when you are dealing with massive amounts of data. the last one is death by anecdote. the debate, cost benefit analysis, tends to be the national security soerkt saying one time we caught this bad guy using this information and this community saying one time this unjust thing happened to a person because of this program. there needs to actually be a much more -- you can't just make this argument on anecdote. you have to look at date why and can find that more specifically how these programs are working, how effective they are. so solutions suggest some of the solutions in listing problems. education. i think and poll intier sponsors scholarships. to make sure lawyers can learn technology and engineers can learn law. it should be a requirement to have an ethics program. they will build technology that will hit the streets and is going to months or years before the law catches up. so shuoul