thanks. >> stahl: be careful.a walk with the president around the white house grounds. i've got a lot of questions i didn't ask. while we waited to see if the president was coming back, his press secretary, kayleigh mcenany, came in with a hand delivery. >> kayleigh mcenany: lesley, the president wanted me to deliver his health care plan, it's a little heavy. >> stahl: oh my god. this is his health care plan? >> mcenany: yes. >> stahl: okay. kayleigh, thank you. >> mcenanay: you're welcome and the vice president will be with you shortly. >> stahl: okay. and the president's not coming back? >> mcenanay: the president's given you a lot of time. >> stahl: it was heavy. filled with executive orders, congressional initiatives, but no comprehensive health plan.

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: i'm lesley stahl.n of "60 minutes." >> hello! >> hello! >> hello. >> nice to see you. >> it's great to see you. >> mr. vice president, thank you so much. >> happy to be here. >> why do you want this job? why do you want to be president again? >> because we've done a great job and it's not finished yet. >> do you think there are a lot of people who are gonna vote for you simply because you're not donald trump? >> well, i hope there's gonna be a lot of people who vote for me because of who i am. >> can you characterize your supporters? >> people that love our country. >> if elected, you would be the oldest president in american history. >> i'm in good shape. >> i think we have enough of an interview here, hope. okay? that's enough. let's go. captioning funded by cbs and ford. we go further, so you can. captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org oh, lord, not today. hey, calvin, greetings... from the future. goodbye... from the now. just checking out this sweet ride to make sure it's safe for

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so i just needed new tools. >> stahl: new tools? that could emboss architectural drawings so that he could read and understand through touch. >> chris downey: they look like normal prints, normal drawings, on the computer. but then they just come out in tactile form. >> stahl: so it is like braille, isn't it? >> chris downey: right. >> stahl: and he came up with a way to "sketch" his ideas onto the plans using a simple children's toy-- malleable wax sticks that he shapes to show his modifications to others. and he says something surprising started to happen. he could no longer see buildings and spaces, but he began hearing them. >> chris downey: the sounds, the textures... and the sound changes because there's a canopy overhead. >> stahl: you can sense that we're under a canopy? >> chris downey: yes. it's all a matter of how the sound works, from the tip of the cane. i was fascinated-- walking through buildings that i knew sighted, but i was experiencing them in a different way. i was hearing architecture, i >> stahl: it sounds as i

. >> stahl: hi, mr. vice president. while our interview with the president did not go forward, the one scheduled with the vice president did. >> stahl: so what just happened with the president? >> vice president pence: lesley, president trump is a man who speaks his mind. i think it's one of the great strengths that he's had-- >> stahl: but he walked out- >> vice president pence: --as president of the united states, is that the american people always know where they stand. >> stahl: i'll buy that- >> vice president pence: and he's always ready. and the american people know that-- in this time, it's, it's- - it's less about the back and forth with the media, and it's-- it's really more about how we bring this country all the way back. >> stahl: we then asked the vice president to put on his hat as the head of the white house coronavirus task force. dr. fauci. you know the president said that he's a disaster, and he and the- - other public health officials around him are idiots. do you care to comment on that? >> vice pre

he is talking about lesley stahl. the first lady was supposed to be there and she is not because of lingering symptoms from covid. what is the latest from the president on her health? >> the president hasn't said anything about it and didn't speak to reporters when he left the white house. we got a statement from the first lady saying she tested negative, talking about the symptoms she had previously and hours before the rally the chief of staff announced that she was canceling and was no longer going to attend the rally with the president and didn't announce they would come to any of the subsequent rallies due to a lingering cough she had. we don't believe she was expected to have a significant speaking role. the president is trying to build up support with women voters. his wife, melania trump is not someone that often joins him on the campaign trail and hasn't since july of 2019. >> cnn chiefs analyst and cnn's dr. sanjay gupta. what is the direction in the white house these day and i am wondering your sense of whe

>> marie: when it comes to the lesley stahl interview. donald what donald trump is doing means more people will watch it. if he doesn't want people to watch what he thinks is a hostile interview, all he's doing is encouraging the opposite and his base may like the fighting with respect to journalists like lesley stahl but i keep going back to the suburban women he's struggling with. they're sick of the name calling. they're sick of the tweets. they're sick of the chaos. they're sick of these kinds of arguments. for donald trump's closing message to be anti-lesley stahl, sort of a fight with a reporter about an interview that no one has seen yet, that's taking oxygen away from what could be a more policy-based closing argument and that's why republicans are pushing him to do more of that, harris. >> harris: i mean, i hear what you are saying but then we have the visual of joe biden as he was on the campaign a few nights ago yelling at a reporter when he was asked about hunter biden. hfs nasty. i'll leave it there. -- it was nasty. i'll lea

stahl starts the interview with are you ready for tough questions? trump told his supporters it was a very contentious interview. i watched the entire thing. it was unremarkable. time spent with leslie stahl asking why supporters don't wear masks, he says many do, she says many don't, he says many do, she says many don't but that was about it. it was not as contentious as people expected it to be, at least not in my opinion. >> we're glad you watched it for us. thanks, scott. >>> president trump and joe biden go head to head for the last time n case you forgot or chose to forget, we wanted to remind you about what happened in the first presidential debate. >> will you answer that? >> the question is. >> radical left. >> will you shut up, man? >> listen, who is on your list, joe? >> a lot of that. this time only the mic of the person responding for the first part of the question will remain on. the other will be muted. reminder, you can watch the final presidential debate here on nbc bay area. kristen welker is moderating. the debate starts at 6:00. c

he is still upset over this interview with leslie stahl.e emotional support anchors joined in the parade claiming that joe biden was not asked difficult questions during his interview with "60 minutes." >> you give him a layup! you give him an out! why cbs is third at night. >> we should know that jason miller the president's senior adviser at the campaign complimented norah o'donnell. look at the questions he claims so unfair. before i roll the tape, we should note leslie stahl fact-checked his answers to these questions and he lied or dodged and that is not on her but him. >> are you ready for some tough questions? >> should be. it's "60 minutes" he is the president up for re-election in the middle of a pandemic and the troubled economy. >> why do you want this job again? >> that is a basic one and essential one for a presidential candidate or really any job. haven't you been asked that question? i know that i have. >> let me ask you what think your biggest domestic priority is for you right now. >> that is an important question. it's als

anthony fauci to tonight's debate moderator, kristen welker of nbc, to lesley stahl of "60 minutes," after trump cut short their interview. today, he accused stahl of "bias, hatred and rudeness," going so far as to release white house video of the interview. in clips later released by cbs, stahl presses him on his response to the pandemic and why he is not urging supporters at his packed rallies to wear masks. >> why aren't you getting up there and saying, i had it. i don't want you to get it. so please -- >> lesley -- >> put your mask on. >> we hand out masks to everybody that comes to the rally. we tell them to wear their masks. >> but you don't and they love you. >> oh, i don't know, lesley. i tell them wear it. >> and they -- if they heard you say it -- >> they wear -- i have no problem. no problem -- >> they love you. they would pay attention. >> next question. go ahead. go ahead. >> they would pay attention to anything you said. >> i hope you're right. >> reporter: stahl then pushing trump on obamacare. the administration is asking the supreme court to throw it out. trump promi

anthony fauci to lesley stahl to hillary clinton and many more. joe biden, mean while, has been off the campaign trail this week preparing for tomorrow's debate and attempting to portray a positive path forward for the country. overnight new financial filings show joe biden's campaign with a substantial cash advantage, nearly triple the amount of cash on hand that the trump campaign has. and president obama delivering a video message to young voters as he gets ready to hit the campaign trail today for biden. we are less than two weeks before election day and more than 33 million votes have already been cast. that is 72% of all of the early votes cast in 2016. so let's begin with cnn's john harwood, he is live at the white house for us. john, make sense of life for us, would you? >> well, alisyn, look, we're getting a demonstration from both candidates of why joe biden is winning this race and president trump is losing it. joe biden who has got a 10-point lead if you look at the average of national polls, lead in the critical battleground states, i

trump also posted a six-second video clip of lesley stahl writing, lesley stahl of "60 minutes" not wearing a mask in the white house after her interview with me. much more to come. we're told stahl wore a mask up until the start of her taping and it was taken immediately after the interview ended. >> have you guys stand right beside the door. >> reporter: it all comes as early voting shatters more records, 35 million americans have now cast a ballot. at this time in 2016 that number was just 5.6 million. in harris county, texas, early voting is on track to beat the total turnout in 2016. as for joe biden, he's off the trail preparing for tomorrow's debate where a new rule will mute the candidates' microphones during their initial answers to questions. biden calls the change a good idea. >> i think there should be more limitations on us not interrupting one another. i hope he's going to come prepared to talk about what he's for, but my guess is he's going to signal that it's all going to be about personal attacks. >> reporter: overnight former president obama releasing this video hours befo

it was a stunning, stunning misstatement on the part of lesley stahl. >> yeah.want everyone to see what the attorney general, it's a very famous quote from the attorney general, and here is william barr on spying. >> i think spying on a political campaign is a big deal. i think there's evidence i spying did occur. yes, i think spying did occur. lou: and the -- [laughter] and the deep state and the radical dems just were beside themselves. they wanted him so to say something about surveillance or, i don't know, cupcakes and daffodils. [laughter] he used a great word, spying. plain anglo-saxon stuff that all of us can understand, even me. >> yep. and, listen, we see this time and again. just a couple days ago we had adam schiff out there saying it's russian disinformation on the hard drive, and then the dni came out and said, no, it's not. how many reporters went with adam schiff and never corrected the record when the dni came out and said the laptop is not russian disinformation, it's not a spy campaign. time and time and time again in the trump era my professio

what did stahl did.isputed trump's version of events on several issues, including on hunter biden and this one about the obama administration. >> the biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign. they spied on my campaign. >> there's no real evidence of that. >> of course there is. it's all over the place, levelsly, they spied on my -- leslie, they spied on my campaign and got caught. >> can i say something? this is 60 of minutes and we can't put on things we can't verify. >> you won't put it on because it's bad for biden. howie: when stahl recalled trump telling -- the president said i don't have to discredit you, you discredited yourself. leslie stahl was arresting men testify at time dar -- arrestine and times. it was still a middle finger for the white house to spoil the exclusive. >> we are all drowning in polls. >> there's a cnn poll that came out wednesday that shows biden leading among seniors by 8 points. >> the latest fox survey of likely voters has joe biden ahead in michigan, pennsylvan

president trump ended a heated interview yesterday with lesley stahl of "60 minutes" after he becameith the line of questioning. apparently, he didn't like that there was one. while being interviewed by lesley stahl yesterday, president trumps told aides that he thought the interview would be cut up to make him look bad for example, they could make him really stupid by cutting from one of her questions to his answer it was a revealed today that rudi guiliani was caught on video with his pants down his pants while alone in a hotel room with a woman he thought was a conservative journalist as part of the filming of "borat 2." this was a late breaking story by -- can we put the name of the publication on the screen? there we go. of course, the libs are at it again. according to the latest data, former vice president joe biden has had more engagement on twitter posts this past month than president trump and no one was more shocked than joe biden. "i have a twitter account? son of a gun can i look at it, or do i need, like, special 3-d glasses? vice president mike pence held telerallies y

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tomorrow night, tonight, the president and the white house appearing to take on veteran journalist lesley stahl. what's this about? >>> the troubling numbers mounting and it's across most of this country. the coronavirus surging. hospitalizations on the rise now in 41 states.

lesley stahl is not going to be happy. >> jimmy: yeah. well, for those who haven't hurt, trump reportedly got up and abruptly left his interview with lesley stahl of "60 minutes" and he's threatening to release his own footage of what happened before it airs on cbs sunday. he's mad about something, we don't know what. he tweeted, lesley stahl of 60 minutes not wearing a mask in the white house after her interview with me, much more to come. i don't know, how much more could there be to come? it was an interview. did she murder someone on her way out of the white house? this photo was taken minutes after he cut the interview short. he hasn't made this face since i think the popeye's near the white house ran out of chicken sandwiches. how bad could this interview be? in his last interview with lesley stahl, he said, i'm president and you're not, and i'm not a baby. what happened? why would he storm out of this one? this is going to be the best episode of "45 minutes" ever. meanwhile, eric trump is working it too. he was on the road in michi

what did you make of lesley stahl's interviewing techniques? >> i think this is a situation that's ripe for media literacy discussion. the idea that the raw footage is out there, as you said, comparing it with what we will see to tonight. we have to ask ourselves some important questions. why in this situation does the president only want to do interviews that don't ask tough questions. let's be honest. the questions weren't that tough. and i think it really just gives us kind of a bird's-eye view of what we're looking at with trump's relationship with the press and being able to see it, i think it really backfired, right, because it really does show some strong journalism and it really does not do what he intended it to do by releasing it. >> larry, how would you feel -- you tape interviews for your peacock show. how would you feel if the person you interviewed tried to release it several days early? >> if it was trump, i would say, yes, thank you, let people see. he doesn't understand how bad he looks. it's ip sane. if he just showed compassi

and would appear from what we've seen from the "60 minutes" interview lesley stahl and kristen welkerry much a journalist in that mold. >> can i say, you know, donald trump tonight is supposed to try to change the position that he's in right now with 12 days to go. he only has time. the temptation that he has to be where he always wanted to be, he's always i'm sure wanted to be on "60 minutes" because to him -- >> he live tweets it every sunday no matter what they cover. >> so he walks into really a disaster, but because his pride puts him on "60 minutes," he must be there be, that's a sign of success. just like having a time -- he has to fake one. the think the problem he has is trumpism only works for people who already believe in it. it doesn't recruit new people. >> yeah. >> this isn't a national tv show where you watch "the apprentice" everybody goes, okay, maybe i like donald trump. he's narrowcasted so much. >> totally. >> to the right-wing media that when you see him in the open in the normal world, people are aghast and appalled. >> and i will note that it is an undercurrent

but do voters care about lesley stahl? >> i don't know that voters care about lesley stahl in the way that the president and perhaps the white house do. what was so perplexing about this is that the president really, you know, i mean, i have to just say, he loves 60 minutes. he wants to be seen on one of the most popular news programs on television. and yet, when he had his moment, it kind of blew up based on what we understand from the reporting that's out there and as a result now, they're trying to counterprogram by tweeting mean things about lesley stahl. and it just does not seem ton something that will work. millions of people will see what happened in that interview, and it's not going to be counteracted by the president's tweets. and on top of that, this is a president who's operating almost entirely by impulse right now, from the rallies, to the attacks on the media. this is a president who is angry at the people around him, he thinks that he's being treated unfairly. he wants to hold campaign rallies, because the

lesley stahl is not going to be happy. >> reporter: today, the white house chief of staff criticizing staal as, quote, an opinion journalist. >> let's get to mary bruce live in philadelphia tonight. and mary, pennsylvania so key, explains why president trump was there tonight, why former president obama is there tonight. two new polls out of pennsylvania, both with joe biden leading, one by about eight points, among likely voters, another with a little more of a lead. but of course, it's always a good bet to look at the average of polls over the last several days, so, where do things stand in pennsylvania? >> reporter: well, david, the polling average has joe biden up here by six points. this is the state that is most likely to determine the outcome of this election. but despite joe biden's lead, everyone is treating this state like it is neck and neck. former president obama unloading here tonight on president trump, ripping into him on everything from the pandemic to trump's taxes and his treatment of the military. david? >> of course, president trump in north carolina tonight. mary

and i have to say, you mentioned the lesley stahl interview. i think most fair minded, independent people who haven't decided will fall in the president's camp and find him in favor. that was a very aggressive, unnecessarily brutish interview. >> all right. karl lashes last word here and i'll ask you what you think a win means for each of the candidates tonight what you think we should look out for. >> a win for president trump is to stanch the bleeding. he's losing white women, who he had last time around. he's losing seniors, who he had last time around. he's losing white voters, even rural white voters. it's not enough for him to just fire up his base. he's got to amplify his base. he's got to expand that base. if tonight he takes the approach of attacking lesley stahl and attacking kristin welker, attacking the media, complaining, it doesn't come off as a strong man, it comes off as a whiner, i this think that's going to be a problem for him. joe biden, he's got to have a very focused, straightforward message to the american people, as john

today, in the "60 minutes" interview, he complained again that stahl wasn't covering "obamagate," butas asked to explain what obamagate was a few months ago, he could not. >> mr. president in one of your mother's day tweets, you appear to accuse president obama of the biggest political crime in american history, by far >> yeah. >> those were your words what crime exactly are you accusing president obama of committing and do you believe the justice department should prosecute him? >> "obamagate. it's been going on for a long time it's been going on from before i even got elected and it's a disgrace that it happened and if you look at what's gone on, and if you look at, now, all of this information that's being released and from what i understand, that's only the beginning. some terrible things happened and it should never be allowed to happen in our country again and you'll be seeing what's going on over the next -- over the coming weeks, and i wish you'd write honestly about it, but, unfortunately, you choose not to do so yeah, jon, please. >> what is the crime exactly that you're acc

he's been out there attacking lesley stahl from "60 minutes," pushing forward what was right wing media is today. >> the president has avoided angry bulldozer like behavior that we saw from the president in that first presidential debate. we already know from polls, much of that behavior was turning off potential undecided voters, which is why the president's advisers are urngiging him to t to take care of that. they are taking care of part of the constant sbrupgs by muting under uninterrupted talk time. making it clear a lot will be on the president himself. what they are urging him to do besides lowering temperature use self-deprecating humor, which they think one of the ways the president comes off the best to voters. of course, the president has seemed receptive to some of that, jake, in these private sessions but it's not being reflected in the hours ahead of the debate. what we have seen from the president is these constant attacks against the debate moderator kristen welker from nbc news. he's been on this strange constant barrage of attacks against "60 minutes" and complaining a

the president cut short it sounds like a "60 minutes" interview with lesley stahl, who is just about the most fair interviewer there is out there. look at her interview with the president four years ago. what happened? >> well, this is a preview potentially of what we can be seeing from the president. he's been attacking journalists for several days now, savannah guthrie from nbc, kristen welker, who will be on tomorrow's debate and now lesley stahl. what we're told is this interview had been going on about 45 minutes and sources say the president was unhappy with the line of questioning. another source telling cnn that the interview focused quite a bit on the coronavirus, and we know this is something that president trump really wants to change the topic on. he wants to focus more on recovery. so this interview really went sideways. he didn't continue on. didn't do the sort of walk and talk with the vice president. now we are hearing from the president and from the chief of staff, the chief of staff saying this morning there's a, quote, high probability they will try to release that

lesley stahl's interview was so strong and so effective, this is only a small piece of what they did, constantly quoting the president to him, showing it, and having him deny what he had said. let's watch. >> let me ask you something about suburban women. >> yeah. >> suburban women, will you please like me? please. please. i saved your damn neighborhood, okay? >> you said the other day to suburban women, will you please like me? please. please. >> i didn't say that. that's so misleading. i say jokingly, suburban women you should love me because i'm giving you security. >> the president said on the stump, i saved the suburbs, you should thank me. >> he wouldn't know a suburb unless he took a wrong turn. he wants to take that subliminal fear out there and say it's because of that guy, because of that woman. that's not who we are as a country. >> both really strong interviews. ashley parker, the president particularly on the defensive in that interview before he walked out. >> yeah, he was. the president, even as you recalled, did something unprecedented where he released the interview,

leslie stahl. we look forward to seeing her third interview with president trump and subsequent interview with vice president pence this weekend. >>> this all comes ahead of president trump and democratic nominee joe biden's final debate tonight. natalie brand is live in nashville, with what is at stake. natalie? >> well, hi, len. the candidates will have their final chance tonight to make their closing arguments, side by side. and challenge each other. and we have been talking to voters here, who say they have already made up their minds or have already voted. but they still plan on watching this debate. however, they tell us they don't want a repeat of that first presidential debate. they want to see far fewer interruptions. >> the stage is set for the final showdown between president trump and democratic nominee joe biden. plexiglas is visible around the candidate's podiums. and there will also be new rules to try to curb the chaos during their first matchup in cleveland. >> it's like two kinder

the president, and i know you saw this, tweeted a video of lesley stahl not wearing a mask, a person familiar telling cnn this was a video taken immediately after president trump ended the interview whshe was standing with producers and not walked back to personal belongings to put it on. she had been wearing the mask from the time she entered the white house to just before the interview began. what do you make of the president sharing that video? >> it's really grasping at straws for him to attack someone for not wearing a mask at this point when basically it's been a badge of honor in the administration to not wear a mask at events. here he is trying to find this moment she wasn't wearing a mask? it's a tremendous reach. again, it speaks to paranoia, something happened in the interview he didn't like. let's face it, he does not like to be interviewed by women who press him. that clearly makes him uncomfortable. he didn't like savannah guthrie, he's attacked kristen welker in advance saying she's biased. he's very uncomfortable and something set him off in the interview with lesley

yesterday, he had a golden opportunity to talk with lesley stahl of "60 minutes." but, evidently, she asked him tough questions about his handling of the coronavirus pandemic, the size of the crowds at his rallies, and his disputes with anthony fauci. because after 45 minutes, he abruptly ended the interview. well, no surprise there. trump always finishes before the woman. ♪ ♪ >> wham-bam, thank you slam! >> stephen: not satisfied with just storming off, trump threatened to beat "60 minutes" to the punch by releasing his own footage, tweeting: "i am pleased to inform you that, for the sake of accuracy in reporting, i am considering posting my interview with lesley stahl of '60 minutes,' prior to airtime!" this will be done so that everybody can get a glimpse of what a fake and biased interview is all about." oh, no! mr. president! on behalf of cbs, please don't post a teaser trailer for this sunday's episode of "60 minutes." 7:30 pm eastern, 6:30 central, only cbs. i hear he walks out. should be pretty exciting. now, after fleeing the interview, trump had a town ha

the shot of just him answering lesley stahl's questions there. the trump campaign and the president himself, he has done this for years, chuck. you know this. his work to essentially tell his supporters and sell this argument to his supporters that he is being treated unfairly by members of the media. that is something that he believes energizes his base and, right now, that is one of the things he wants to do is make sure that his base turns out if they do not. that's the base line of what has to happen. his base has to turn out, and then he has to get people on top of that to be successful in some of these key battleground states. you talk about the strategy for tonight. so often when we have these conversations, there's a distinction and difference between what i'm hearing from sources in and around the president's orbit versus what we hear publicly from the president himself. there's a little bit of that heading into tonight. there are aides and allies, according to our team's reporting who are telling the president. don't interrupt as much.

tuesday trump got angry and cut his interview with lesley stahl short. today he released the full interview, "the dictator's cut," if you will. they had their own cameras rolling at the white house. i guess they wanted to take cbs' ratings away, so they beat them to the punch. why he would want more people to see this, i don't know. here's how mr. tough guy got going. >> are you ready for some tough questions? >> you're going to be fair. >> i'm going to be fair. >> just be fair. >> but last time i remember you saying to me, bring it on, bring it on. >> no, i'm not looking for that, i'm looking for fairness. >> you're going to get fairness. but you're okay with some tough yes? >> no, i'm not. >> you're not okay with tough questions? >> you don't ask biden tough questions. >> jimmy: such a child. nothing is fair, everyone's against him. his parents really did a number on this one. thanks again, fred and mary trump. [ applause ] and the back and forth with lesley stahl, it didn't get much better from there. >> i didn't want to have this kind of -- >> of cou

president trump sat down with leslie stahl before getting up and saying they had enough material.mpted the president's exit but he is now on twitter seemly attacking leslie stahl for not wearing a mask or something. obviously this is the same president who reluctant to wear a mask and undermining the cause of wearing a mask. i don't know that there is any strategy to this. it just seems kind of like unhinged behavior but what is your take? >> we know president trump when he feels under attack tends to lash out to the person nearest to him. we are less than two weeks out from the election, the administration is feeling pressure given that according to all polls, he is trailing biden right now. so as those around him and as his advisers try to get him to focus on issues that they think would help him with voters we have seen a president over the last few days attack infectious disease expert fauci repeatedly and also now attacking leslie stahl for reasons that we aren't quite sure about just yet. >> i'm trying to figure out, sabrina, what the message is, president's closing argument

how is it that jesse watters read the ig-report and lesley stahl hasn't?page was wiretapped and they used undercover agents on the campaign and looked at flynn's bank records without a subpoena. how does she not know that as a journalist at cbs news, the same news that put out forgers are for george w. bush before the election but she is worried about hunter stuff not being verified do. what fox did. they called the guy with the email address and said is this real? yes, it's real. how hard is that, cbs? >> all right. up next. it's the battle of the presidents. barack obama lays into donald trump and trump is firing back next on "the five." >> ♪ >> ♪ we live in uncertain times. however, there is one thing you can be certain of. the men and woman of the united states postal service. we are here to deliver your cards, packages and prescriptions. and also deliver the peace of mind knowing that what's important to you-like your ballot-is on its way. every day, all across america, we deliver for you. and we always will. to give you the protein you need with less

>> reporter: president trump cut short tuesday's interview with "60 minutes" correspondent lesley stahl at the white house. it was her third interview with the president and included tense moments. >> the biggest scandal was when they spied on my campaign, they spied on my campaign. >> there is no real evidence of that. >> of course there is. it is all over the place. >> no. >> lesley, they spied on my campaign -- >> sir, can i say something? you know, this is "60 minutes," and we can't put on things we can't verify. >> reporter: from there the discussion grew more contentious. president trump threatened to post the entire interview before its sunday air date. thursday, the white house did exactly that. cbs news responded with a statement saying the white house's unprecedented decision to disregard their agreement with cbs news and release their footage will not deter "60 minutes" from providing the full, fair and contextual reporting which presidents have participated in for decades. a senior white house official tells cbs news, the president felt the interview was unfair and wanted to

listen. >> when 60 minutes and lesley stahl are too tough for you, you ain't all that tough.t of a 60 minutes interview, then you're never going to stand up to a dictator. if you're spending all your time complaining about how mean reporters are to you, you're not going to stand up to putin. >> the former president there riffing. >> i think he's wrong about that. i think clearly lesley stahl is pretty tough and the president couldn't take it. >> democratic nominee joe biden sat down with 0i60 minutes. here he is with norah o'donnell, pushing back on president trump's claim that biden wants to shut down the economy. >> you don't have to lock down the economy. it depends on the community. it depends where we're in real trouble, and you have to do things that make sense that make it easier for people to avoid being exposed. freedom is about making sure that you care about the people you're around, that they be free too. it's a patriotism to put this mask on. >> biden also addressed a frequent attack line from the president. >> if elected, you would be the oldest president in ame

and "60 minutes'" lesley stahl? what about that health care plan that he promised? remember a couple -- it's going to come in two weeks, it will be in months, et cetera. what about the health care plan? what about the vaccine? >> earliest we could see that, a vaccine? >> sooner than the end of the year. could be much sooner. >> sooner than november 3rd? >> oh, i think -- i think in some cases, yeah, it's possible before. right around that time. we're on pace to have a vaccine available this year, maybe far in advance of the end of the year. we are delivering life-saving therapies and will produce a vaccine before the end of the year or maybe even sooner. we're going to have a vaccine very soon. maybe even before a very special date. you know what date i'm talking about. >> a vaccine and the health care plan. what about the stimulus deal? what about that? the wall. all that stuff. the deal -- millions of americans desperately need to help them pay for -- pay the rent, put food on the table. this president has never governed, never done his job. the americans are payi

highly doubt leslie stahl or anybody at "60 minutes" has any intellectual curiosity at all about hunter biden and the millions and millions he made without any experience while his dad was the vice president, and connecting them to china and russia and ukraine and kazakhstan. so why is it so important that president trump continue to get his message out via twitter and through his rallies? well, that is my. and tonight, fox news election correspondent and our ownhi lawrence jones was outside the president's rally in erie, pennsylvania, and he joins us with more. lawrence, what is going on? >> good evening, sean. the president was fired up at his rally today. the narrowing on vice president joe biden, flip-flop on fracking. earlier today, i got the opportunity to talk with the president's supporters about fracking, how it affects them, and so much more. watch. >> how do you feel about this race? who is going to pull off the big three in pennsylvania? this is joe biden's home state, so who is it? >> i don't care, it is all about trump, because he cares about everybody. >> fracking has bee

lesley stahl was like, "uh, i think we have enough footage." [ laughter ] yeah, we got enough.you're keeping score, trump's attacked "60 minutes," doctors, and the postal service. at this point, seniors are like, do you want us to vote for you or not just tell us we don't have to [ laughter ] seriously, if you're trying to win the senior vote, you can't insult "60 minutes." that's like trying to win the youth vote by banning tiktok oh, wait, he did that too. [ laughter ] yeah apparently, trump was annoyed because his segment was going to air after the one about a a guy who carves rodeo stars out of soap. [ laughter ] oh, man. there's a producer at "60 minutes" really laughing at that [ laughter ] well, after that, trump held a a campaign rally in erie, pennsylvania where he sounded pretty thrilled about the "60 minutes" interview listen to this >> you have to watch what we do to "60 minutes." you'll get such a kick out of this you're going to get a kick out of it. lesley stahl is not going to be happy. >> jimmy: yeah he looked like he really got a a kick out of it here he is im

minutes weeek on 60 heard what trump told lesley stahl about the upcoming supreme court case and i, i hope that the end it. it will be so good if they end it. end of quote. question that's why president trump nominated justice barrett to the supreme court, why the republicans jammed her through in the middle of an election. triedblic has tried and since the affordable care act was passed to overturn it and every single time they have failed. president trump has tried everything can to sabotage the now, they have added the court of justice to criticize the previous decision to uphold the affordable care act in the hopes they can destroy it once and for all through the arts matter how me americans they hurt in the process selected number exactly what is at stake in this election. if you have diabetes asthma cancer or complications with covid-19, you will lose the protections this law provides. insurers will be able to jack up your premium and or deny your coverage women will be charged more for their health just because they are women and children no longer be able to stay on their pare

they are just the standard sort of respectful lesley stahl way, at least the clip that they have released. scott, now to what joe biden just said, does that answer republicans or voters, i guess, all voters, questions about joe biden's vision for the court, that he wants court reform? >> well, he lied. i mean, he told us a few days ago he was going to have an answer to this question before election day. he doesn't have an answer. >> why isn't that an answer. hold on, scott. why isn't that -- i'm going to set up a commission for 180 days and they will look at how to reform the court. >> he's been asked directly dozens of times, his running mate, his campaign, do you favor packing the court? i don't know, i don't want to talk about it because it will become a news headline. he finally said, well, i will get you an answer before the election and the answer is punting it down the road 180 days. we are still in the same place. you have to vote for me to find out what i'm going to do. the reality is he will never be able to withstand the left flank of his party on this and he said the court is

the president and stahl spoke for more than 40 minutes the president said to stahl, i think you havet you need. the president tweeted i'm pleased to inform you for the sake of accuracy in reporting i'm considering posting my interview with lesley stahl of "60 minutes" prior to air time. this will be done so everyone can get a glimpse of what a fake and biased interview is all about. he also recorded not wearing a mosque speaking to producers at the white house. the spokesperson said the video was takened mely after the interview and she had been wearing a mask when she entered the white house and up to the start of the interview. i guess we will find out just what it is that set president trump off there. meanwhile, new battle ground polling show some close races. the latest reuters poll puts biden up by 7. 49 to 46%. n michigan, they're basically tied. in florida, the university of north florida poll shows biden 48%, trump 47%. and in georgia, the poll shows the presidential candidates are tied at 45% apiece. this is still a very, very close race. meanwhile, new filings with the fed

look, just this week, on "60 minutes," we heard what trump told lesley stahl about the upcoming supremeourt case on the affordable care act, and i quote -- "i hope that they end it. it will be so good if they end it." end of quote. there is no question, there is no question that's why president trump nominated justice barrett to the court. that's why the republicans jammed her through with the confirmation in the middle of an election. republicans have tried and tried since the affordable care act was passed to overturn it, and every single time, they failed. president trump has tried everything he can on his own to sabotage the law. so now, through what i characterize as a blatant abuse of political power, they have added to the court a justice who criticized chief justice roberts' previous decision to uphold the affordable care act in hopes they can destroy the affordable care act once and for all through the courts, no matter how many americans they hurt in the process. let's remember exactly what's at stake in this election. if you have diabetes, asthma, cancer, or even complication

we've seen him attack leslie stahl. we've seen him attack kamala harris, and the list goes on and on and on. this is a fundamental issue with this man. when he can't get his way, he throws a tantrum, like a child, and begins to call names. i think it's an affront to children all across america to say they would behave this way. >> in an effort to limit interruptions, as you know, the candidates' microphones will be muted at times during tonight's debate. are you hopeful this will lead to a more substantive debate and less arguing back and forth during that first debate, donald trump interrupting the former vice president almost with every answer? >> i am hopeful. but, again, i want to remind the american people, we're having to change the rules for this man, because he can't abide by decency and common courtesy, even in the midst of a debate. this is really what his presidency has been all about. this man rewrites the rules to his benefit. he shows no empathy, and he can't even behave himself for a couple of hours to ex