on the board's comments and the neighbors -- what the neighbors wanted, 500 square feet, no stair or penthouse structure, nothing intrusive a wire or glass railings kept at the minimum height allowed by the code, a hatch or some sort of recessed stair. no large apertenances, and no large set backs, and no lighting up there, since then a big issue. but i couldn't get responses or affirmation on nearly all of those things, so here we are. >> thank you, mr. williams. >> mr. tunney, and sorry, i forgot to disclose. >> tom tunney on behalf of the permit holder. appreciate the opportunity to address this. we are -- would like more time to come up with a plan for the roof deck. we have talked about december 13th with the appellants. we have agreed to give them, to provide them with a plan, drawings ten days in advance of the 13th, december 3rd, that's a sunday. we can figure out exactly when to get it to them. they've sent a list of items. i've explained to mr. williams a few times that we're happy to consider all of them. some of them we already acknowledged, the 500 square foot limitation, but we n