up to your penthouse you'll be arriving at the north side with the stair opening but you'll have a stair to step into to come into the roof facing the option direction and the stairs will be a 14r57bd form that opens in the center of the roof would you then be able to get a hatch based on the description what we can do we have done that on quite a few of the projects and have shares that dbi because of the cluster of space has hatches. >> if i'm understanding correctly right now we have a wrap around stair rather than wrap up that around continue the leg to the northeast so on the third floor we have an 8 foot floor plate we have let's see. >> we have over 4 feet of rice we have to make i'm going to basically cut off my hallway. >> can you relocate a stair i don't have is paper i don't know what those are can you find a way ramp the stair in the northern direction e.r. bending it in a double way to the east to get up to the roof that supports the project. >> i believe i don't have the headroom. >> could you make the headroom. >> it will mean a whole redesign the floor in terms of the not

the east property line where you see the proximate location of the new deck and stair how it's screened from the adjoining property no extraordinarily circumstances you want to exercise a dr we ask you to approve the plan. >> any other speakers in support of the project sponsor seeing none dr you have a 2 minute rebuttal. >> i having want to correct several misrepresentations the front set back is for the garage this has a street level garage no set back at all the owners are not living in san francisco they're living in paris they're not currently in san francisco their children are in paris i tenant the meeting i expressed my outlooks and raised questions and not given a call back so i speak to the arithmetic the neighbors behind have been at the level where the deck goes they see directly into the bedrooms it if show the - this is a disingenuous representation i have is are a disappointment no one raised outlooks and told the architect i was going to file a objection a lot of disingenuous representation i'm very disappointed audience project sponsor you have about two minutes. >> goo

it looks like the stairs must come up to the deck there; is that correct or are those stairs to our deck on the deck comes off the bedroom. >> i think what he's asking our stairs there's no deck if you move the stairs into the 5 foot set back on the other side could you do that. >> i guess the thing we could do that in order to get the same deck we'll have the deck on that side. >> put-down the deck in the empty space. >> right there but then those that will butt up to our next neighbor. >> it's better to stay where you're at. >> that seems like it makes sense i have my questions answered the third deck two projects the dr requester the difference between 3 foot and 4 foot projection is pretty minimal you want to put a chair there i don't see the point in that one i'm not

functioning we're not moving the stairs. >> commissioner antonini yeah. misspoke the wall i was complaining about having only one small window it is actually on negotiating yeg not on 12th because the streets are confusing in that part of the city negotiating noreaga it not going down the hill but it's objective there is only one wall that is completely blank. >> commissioner richards. >> i guess question for myself and commissioner hillis our intent to not shrink it by the same dimensions but shift it closer to the property line on the property going down the hill and yes. >> i like that idea i like if idea. >> i i know there's a motion. >> i made the motion but i'm entertaining our amendment. >> i'll move to have it 10 feet from the property line on noreaga side. >> and remain the same on the - >> i'm in different to the other. >> it's hard to say we don't have the mapping of the adu adjoining building i'd like to keep roof decks from all buildings. >> keep it where do you start getting rid of the solid wall. >> the par fit requirement to get someone on

hatches in spaces i think those stair structures are awe notifying. >> i can speak to that. >> when there's a roof deck you need a stair that's code compliant and need handrails a hatch didn't allow that a hatch works if mechanic equipment or spates space on the roof. >> we've used hatches before why is this different that a hatch won't work here. >> i honestly can't answer that why a hatch wouldn't be feasible as opposed to the bulk. >> can i ask the architect so if we were to minimal a hatch that's an opening in the envelope at that location we'll be required to build a par pit

when you look at the stairs here and you see well maybe it's just dusted with a little bit of snow. in fact these stairs like everywhere in this city are just totally enraced in this absolutely thick ice. and in georgia, where these downed lines turned into fire crackers about 250,000 homes without power this morning. but linesmen out in force. >> some people worked through

. >> when you look at the stairs here and see, maybe it is just dusted with a little snow. in fact, these stairs like everywhere in the city are just totally encased in this absolutely thick ice. in georgia, where these downed lines turned in to firecrackers, about 250,000 homes without power, but linesmen out in force. >> some people worked through the night last night and we have

the stairs healthy life.e in sweden they're over it. 39 escalators have stopped working and they have to walk up. >> everybody's complain? >> some of the places look at the size some are like 180 steps long. you can see this woman right there, almost fainted. she's panting. the guys at reebok decided we like our healthy living we're going to go out and help people as well. they got together crossfiters who help you know literally carry people up. >> no! are you serious. >> really? >> yes. a bunch of crossfiters, they get together carrying kids dogs luggage, carrying everybody. even a pregnant woman there up the stairs so they can get about their day. at the same time encouraging more humans get out. >> all i can think of is the legality of somebody drops somebody else and go tumbling down a huge lawsuit. >> and caught up in the i don't want anybody touching me just get away i'll walk up. they're all up in your business. >> i want to say if a good-looking gentleman with muscles want to carry me up the stairs w

syncot do i want to add. >> only the stairs on the earlier one in september had the stairs not think the other side but on the back it was further away and so thank you sorry commissioner moore. >> it's quite all right. we need to focus what is the in front of united states this has an sensitive and sue the residential design team and it is an expansion of the home and sensitive to and indeed a setting it compromises in a major way so i basically move that we don't take dr and support the design team to the project in front of us. >> second. >> commissioners is there a motion and a second to not take dr and approve commissioner wan commissioner johnson. >> commissioner president wu so moved, commissioners, that motion passes unanimously 5 to zero and places ion item 13 arrest at 238 presidio avenue your last discretionary review. >> good evening again comblirgz i give may presentation there are additional materials simpleminded by the dr requester we will pass out this is for a discretionary review at a project on presidio after a property located mid block own each side of the stree

park the stair penthouse now it is not been acknowledged by any of the speakers that the stair penthouses within the space of otherwise that is occupied by a 4 story the stair penthouse is modest in size i believe has been reduced as much as it can be and sloped so it's not that boxy structure that appeared in one of the dr requesters drawings the stairwell penthouse is not extraordinary it is a common place structure throughout the city and you know there are people that dislike them but you know a deck in san francisco is considered common place and in fact can be a permit can be obtained over the counter you have to have a stairway to reach the deck so christian can explain but you know if we're going to have decks we need a way to reach the deck as for the final speaker there was one at 140 randell mentions there are impacts to the vegetable garner but the speaker lives 3 doors away no impacts to her house i'm not sure those two are consistent in my evident i didn't hear if the dr requesters or speakers in their support that mentioned extraordinary impacts that's what we are here to

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that's like three, four stairs there. big stairs. >> yes. anyway, by the way it was the singer's first time performing in 20 years. the looks of it, two decades before she returns. >> don't say that. >> laid gay go's joining the cast of american horror story the pop star will join the fifth season of the hit zest ear, which returns in october. now, gaga posted a video to her twitter page, to announce this news. oh, look at. that will she said that the name of the show's new season is america horror story hotel. >> i'm horrified. >> yes. before the show begins filming, gaga is going on tour tony bennett that tour with tony bennett kicks off in april. she will be a busy girl. so is that the announcement? my gosh. >> what is she going to do when he is singing my kind of town ♪ ♪ she certainly knows how to wear some costumes. like this is nice addition to the show. >> hey we've been asking for snow picks. let's show a couple of them. thank you for sending them in with the hashtag #fox29snow. >> this one is from mattie young in middletown, delawa

so we did come down the stairs and i gave a hug to president havel. i said yes. [laughter] it was great. so then we had all the meetings and everything and so then we did go to a jazz club that night and we walked across charles bridge and we went to the jazz club and president clinton was given a saxophone, and as usual he played my funny valentine. and then there was a great saxophonist that played with them. that's what havel got up and also this is limited he had no rhythm, because he had barack is that he couldn't shake in any kind of shape or form. [laughter] anyway, he sat down to president clinton said you have no idea how hard it is to put a brand-new saxophone, it was one of those great evenings. and then when we had an official meeting, we went up to the castle. i've said this to a couple of times during this week, but it's a good way to include this is as we were standing there they played the star-spangled banner at the czech national anthem. which always brings me to tears because as we all know the star-spangled banner says land of the free and the

kelly says she realized this path isn't wide enough for her standard size chair and is cut off by stairs. she noticed it after last month's incident where one woman died and many passengers self evacuated after being trapped in smoke-filled cars. >> it's very worrisome. it doesn't sound like there's a real good plan for people in general, much less people with disabilities like myself. >> this is an emergency teleevacuation card. every metro station has one of these. >> reporter: when we asked what would happen if someone in the wheelchair needed to be evacuated, they explained rescue crews can use these etec devices to roll up to the end of the train. >> it only ways 160 pounds but can hold 1,000 pounds of capacity. >> reporter: metro says all local fire departments are supposed to get evacuation training. news 4 was there when the fairfax county fire department learned how to use the etec last summer. d.c. fire tells the i-team all members are to be trained on the etec but couldn't provide any training records for this specific item within the past two years. instead, it gave us traini

there are many facilities as individuals go up the stairs or down the stairs on either side of the hill, that they can get the light refreshments that they might need. the second issue i would like to talk about is really eastside dweller issue. i'm on montgomery, so a little further down than some of the main players you will hear from. the diagram presented by miss costello was informative, but if you look at the residents overall, and many of them are nearer the eastside than the west side and there is on the west side, there is park -- between the kiosk and the homes, there is also a roadway and there is further green space. so there is actually greater separation. i think when you are thinking about the positioning here, is that all other things being equal, the advantage to the site would be a west side one rather than an eastside one, because it would be less disruptive -- it would be the eastside site is going to be more disruptive to residents than the west side location. all other things being equal. i think what will you hear from some of the other presenters, things are prob

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it is climbing stairs. it is handling the rugged terrain of a parking lot. it is an amazing thing. me is a robotics director who is joining me right now. dan, first of all for the rest of this segment, we are going to run robot video, because it is amazing stuff to look at. let's start with why is it important for this dog to walk? >> a lot of it was left on the cutting room floor, so this is the best of the best. it is important to make this robot walk or do research on this robot, because there are a number of other capabilities that we build out on this. you have to stop thinking about developing products and think of it about google developing a robot solution. that would be research that generates capabilities, which then generates products and new types of marketplaces tied in with data. it is not a hardware play. what they have done by purchasing boston dynamics, and then they announced that they are purchasing seven other companies as if they are hiring or acquiring the best researchers and the best robotics experts in the world. this also ties in with android and job at an

a woman was walking on the stairs when they gave way. department of licenses and inspections is investigating. >>> the search is on for a shooter who killed a man sitting in his car in tioga nicetown section. police say the man was in his 20s. he investigators say he was sitting in his car on west butler street where he was shot with an assault rifle. he was taken to temple university hospital where he died. >>> one man is in custody in connection with the stabbing death of niki minaj's tour manager. 29-year-old was killed and his friend was critically injured. one person of interest is in custody. police are still searching for two other men. >>> a shooting happened january 24 on the 4200 block of mccall iister street. else considered armed and dangerous. >>> a university received an anonymous letter saying that students were hazed. the and he thinks is up in a week. >>> former football coach jerry sandusky is facing legal troubles of his own. authorities say he used the cash to feed a gambling habit. he is disbarred. he said he is read

backs off, backpedalling, runs across the stage and up the stairs and hides in his dressing room. why? because he had been seeing one of booth's women. and booth had said to him, if i ever catch you with her again, i'll kill you. so actually harry hawk's first instinct was, he's coming to kill me. and runs off the stage. another significant person from that night that i think has not received anywhere near the coverage that he should have is ned emerson. and ned emerson was very close friends with john wilkes booth, had known him since childhood, and bore a remarkable resemblance to him. this photo i got from the emerson family, descendents of ned emerson. it's not been published anywhere before. which you realize looking at it, the close resemblance to booth would have led to so many complications. and indeed, in the days afterwards, emerson was misidentified as booth. a young woman who had been rehearsing with him in the alley outside the theater, she's arrested just because it was said she was associating with booth that morning when in reality it was emerson. poor ned emerson,

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so while standing on those stairs, which were part of the set up, madonna fell backward off the stairs seems to have been caused by a cape that she was wearing of course madonna telling fans it was tide too tightly but she's okay. but she went down pretty hard. >> of course she is fine, though. >> right? >> boom. >> looks like it hurt. >> she is a fitness fanatic. and she bounced right up. and the dancers, what do we do? do we help her? come to her aid? >> i always wonder why they have all of these stairs at these performances. too much. >> and it is dark and everything else, lights on the stage. >> lady gaga joining the cast of american horror story. the pop star will join the hit series, which returns in october, gaga posted video to her twitter page to announce the big news, she said the name of the show, the show's new season, american horror story hotel but before the show begins filming gaga is going on tour with tony bennett, that tour kicks off in april. >> interesting pairing there. >> yes. >> okay, there are reports that bobbi kristina brown was taken out after medically indu

that is bent out in front of my home actually, it's right there there's the decimal meter on the stairs right there and those are the levels on one of the nights of the construction. >> sorry sir, may i interrupt you victor our screens have been flickering. >> at any rate the background noise is 50 dba and the night time novice 20 dba the respondent will say when the n judah rotundas but it is loud we're used to that that is a rumble not the screeching one hundred disembarkation back up beepers and the scraping of the beepers that just wake you up it's not just me, you saw in the brief i think i said 54 maybe i was tired 45 people signed the petition many live across the street and some further away those beeping sound travel a frequency a thousand hertz is designed to be very noticeable so okay 0 that's the problem i'm here to in my brief i've proposed that we not revoke the night time noise permits so we say replace those 0 noisy beepers are a man on the ground so the fwhoiz a flag to signal when it is safe cal osha has approved many we've come this close to an agreement i called cynt

it's climbing stairs, it's handling the rugged terrain of a parking lot -- it's an amazing thing.from massachusetts is a robotics research director. first of all, the viewers should enjoy your face because the rest of this segment, we are going to roll lots of robot video because it's amazing to look at, but what are we seeing? why is it important for this dog to walk? >> it is amazing stuff and you have to realize a lot of it was left on the cutting room floor. it's important to make this robot walk or do research on this robot because there's a number of capabilities that will be built out of it. you have to stop thinking of it as google developing robots and think of it as developing a robotics solution stack which would generate new products in new types of marketplaces. this is a data play, not a hardware play. what they have done by purchasing boston dynamics and then announcing they were purchasing seven other companies, they are acquiring the best researchers and roboticists in the world. they also have ties with android and java and something called robot operating system

on 850 brian stairs, city hall stairs for years and i'm still in pain. we need some closures as parents. we don't want this to hit anybody else's home. >> thank you, ms. brown. next speaker, please. [ applause ] >>supervisor london breed: please, if you cannot clap, i would appreciate that. thank you, i think there is a board rule that says you can wave your hands, but please not clap. thanks. >> next. >> public speaker: i saw a bumper sticker that says i hate haters. jesus used that to explain that he has to come no. 1. he said if any man come after me and hate not his father and mother and wife and children and brothers and sisters in his own life also he can not be my disciple. whoever does not bare his cross cannot be my disciple. today i was up at city hall in san mateo asking the secretary to community with k fax 11 00 and get the podcast yesterday because he made the fact that yes, -- jerry brown is making the announcement to sign the declaration to vaccination. get the podcast. michael, the black guy. he's on k fax. i listen to so much talk radio

this is a basement plan which shows the replacement of the existing exterior stair and relocation of the garage door and the entry to the lower level. this is the first floor plan which shows the addition that extends to the back about 4 feet and it also shows a propoed skylight that will provide light to the lower unit. this is the second floor plan and it shows the removal of the exterior back stair and also the proposed deck and the roof plan, which shows the proposed roof deck and access to the roof above. so this concludes my presentation and i'm actually done before the bell rang tim is also here, he's the project architect and is available for any detailed questions. thanks. >> thank you, commissioners, questions? >> public comment. >> so with that we will open up public comment. any member of the public wish to speak on this item? >> yes, i would. >> please come forward. >> my name is dan hayes and i am vice president of the telegraph hill dwellers and i'm really delighted to be here. sometimes when the hill dwellers come to these meetings it's not always this such a positive

the woman was walking on the stairs and they gave way. the department of licenses and inspections is investigating. >>> a penn state university fraternity is facing sanctions for alleged hazing. they were suspended in december after the university received a letter alleging that the fraternity members were hazed. they will be permitted limited activities that suspension ends in a week. >>> the lawyer for jerry sandusky is facing legal troubles of his own. he is accused of stealing $535,000 from three former clients. authorities say he used the cash to feed a gambling habit. he said he is ready to take the consequences of 25 theft charges. sandusky was not among the clients he allegedly stole from. >>> happening today, 6 flags great adventure begins its seasonal hiring. they host a job fire at the employment center 16 flags boulevard. you are encouraged to fill out an application ahead of time on the 6 flags website. ♪ >>> the oscars are tomorrow night, our own alicia vitarelli has traveled to hollywood for the biggest night in tinseltown

. >> like two years ago i fell down a flight of stairs and caught myself.ith my arms, i was falling and something in there has been awesomely painful ever since. i think it is time to get that checked now. >> i'm going to my primary care physician that i have been seeing for a decade. >> keep going until it stops. >> it doesn't stop. >> push my forward. i think you probably have a row day tor cuff tear. >> what should i do about it right now? >> to make a diagnosis, you need an mri. >> how easy will it be to see someone for an mri? >> yeah, it's quick. >> how much does it cost? >> it's a lot, you have no insurance? >> i have insurance, then it should not cost you anything but a copayment. >> dr. isaac has me thinking. i'm very lucky, i have great health insurance, but what if i didn't. there are millions of americans with no health insurance at all. cost matters and it compares to want to comparison shop for the lowest priced mri. that's what i'm going to do. should be a snap, right? >> i want an mri done on my shoulder, i would like to see what it costs. >

she realized this evacuation path isn't wide enough for her standard-size chair and is cut off by stairs. she noticed it after last month's incident when one woman died and many passengers self-evacuated after being trapped in smoke-filled cars. >> it's very worrisome. it doesn't sound like there's a real good plan for people in general, much less people with disabilities like myself. >> this is an emergency evacuation cart. every metro rail station has these in the stations. >> rep when the news team asked what would happen if someone in a wheelchair needed to be evac tunnel ronald explains crews can use these etec devices to roll up to the train. t onl weighs 160 pounds can hold a thousand pounds. >> reporte metro says all local fire departments are supposed to get evacuation training. news 4 was there when the fairfax county fire department learned how to use these. all members are to be trained on the etec but it couldn't provide any training records for this specific item within the . instead, it gave us training photos of the merv which can get to trapped passengers in less than fo

so we met at the top of the stairs.n says one of his proudest moments was taking his golden globe through security at the airport. >> i went through and i saw the bag and i saw the woman stop the thing and then go like closeup on this weird shaped thing. she said, i think it's an award or something. and i was praying that they would make me open it up and they did. >> reporter: oscar winner reese witherspoon was a producer. her company pacific standard backed wild and gone girl. >> i started my production company two years ago because i saw six of my favorite actresses fighting over a really crappy role in a movie and i thought, we deserve better. we just do. >> reporter: that's your eye on entertainment. suzanne marquez, cbs news los angeles. >>> coming up after your local news on cbs this morning, severe and cold in the northeast. we'll get your forecast. >>> plus a new study on jogging. why faster isn't always better. >>> and gayle talks with actor kevin costner about his movie, "black or white." that's the "cbs morn

why not a stair? ketchup, a popular con condiment, or the mutilated reinsurance ma -- remanence of a potato. does pot make you go crazy? >>> cannibus? more like cantibus. a new study leaked to "the daily mail" claims that strong cannibus causes one in four cases of psychosis. that's like 25%. researchers cram the users who smoke -- researchers claim those who smoke skunk will experience a psychotic episode. and they were more likely to be daily smokers and smoke the stronger bud. what a surprise. the researchers say there is a, quote urgent need to inform kids about the hypo10 see of cannibus -- high potency of can cannibus. here is what happened when one pot smoker was not happy with her haircut. >>> that is no hoax. matt, are you a libertarian which means you are for cyanide cigarettes being sold to children. >> exactly. >> but is there something wrong with this study? >> sure because it was published by the daily mail. >> it appeared in the daily mail. >> it appeared in the daily mail. and it is 16

. >> as he was walking down the stairs from air force one behind him, one of the perks is sometimes youhance to hitch a ride on air force one back to home base. >> reporter: you can see that couple, shaking his hand. the president seems to be getting in -- no. taking a walk. waving at the media. getting ready to head into san francisco. that will tie up traffic a little bit. probably easier if you are traveling with the president. we expect to see traffic tied up. the president -- the helicopters will be used to ferry him tomorrow from san francisco to palo alto. >> tonight could be a different story. the president will be going up 101 or 280 to get to san francisco. staying at the fairmont hotel. the way they do this is running block aids. they won't shut down the freeway. but they temporarily shut down intersections. >>> new clues in the gothat killed dash goo that killed hundreds of -- goo that killed hundreds of birds. >> more of the roses, the bay area grower battling to get you to buy the best. >>> new clues about the mystery goo that killed hundreds of birds. the department of fi

even stairs are naivd gold. oscars here and under wrap and carpet itself is unveiled. >> once they unwrap the red carpet it is go time. >> and unfortunate we have to put the dents up. >> the stars will be there that's what matters. >> hair will not get wet or gowns. >> i was not thinking ever that at all. >> yes rain tarps are up with showers in the forecast. folks behind the big show are not taking any chances. celebrity stand ins are warming up the red carpet. klipt east wood, kerry washington. eeming an hawk. media outlets around the world are rolling, sequins are being stepped into. selfies snapped and star gazer on stand by hoping for celebrity sighting. >> there's a lot of people trying to get a glimpse of anything or take pictures or get your picture with a statue ♪ tonight, tonight won't be just any night. >> philadelphia native carol will be singing opera for the stars as they make their big entrance. >> i would coon for clooney any day. >> robin rob certificates rehearsing for her ceremony and says the

. >> i was up at 5:30 exactly that, with a cup of coffee sitting down stairs in the darkness and my wifetching in our bedroom. when my name was announced, we -- i ran upstairs to tell her and she was running downstairs so we met at the top of the stairs. we're just jumping up and down. >> reporter: eddie redmain said one of his proud moments was taking his golden globe through security at the airport. >> i saw the bag going through and i saw the woman stop the thing and go close up on this weird shaped thing. she said, i think it's an award or something. and i was praying that they would make me open it up and they did. >> reporter: oscar winner reese witherspoon was the producer and star of "wild." her production company backed both "wild" and "gone girl." >> i started my production company two years ago because i saw six of my favorite actresses fighting over a really crappy role in a movie and i thought, we deserve better. we just. >> reporter: that's your eye on entertainment. >>> coming up after your local news on cbs this morning, severe cold and snow in the northeast. we'll get yo

of the building to come down those stairs. problem is, she was on the other side of the building trapped two men were able to save her and today she met those heroes. >> glad you're okay. >> reporter: understandably emotional reunion debbie wade is alive right now thanks to these two men 24 hours earlier she was caught inside an inferno a second floor window of her fiance''s tattoo parlor. monstrous flames and thick black smoke bearing down on her to the point she was becoming confused. when at that exact moment mark grow gore row a home remodeler happened to be driving by with a ladder truck and firefighter philip ruben happened to be in a nearby store. they grab the ladder and ruben brought debbie down. >> thank you. >> just something that anybody would do. >> happened to be there. we had just gotten training with the department that morning. >> thank you again. >> anyone of us would have done the same thing. >> i would hope so. >> debbie was helping her fiance' whose known simply as bird organize the storage area of his tat