well, maybe as a stalin. wells likewise had been impressed by vladimir lenin whom he called a refreshing little man. an amazing little man. wells's fellow socialist george bernard shaw met with stalin and you're going to think this is sarcastic, it's not. it's completely serious. george bernard shaw -- we cannot afford to give ourselves more leaders. what our most enterprising neighbor the soviet union judicially eliminates speculators to make the world safe for honest men. if you see the actual original notes from the meeting which lady aster and some other people recorded that was precisely, precisely what stalin had told george bernard shaw. he parroted the exact line that stalin wanted them to say. somebody who wasn't taken by this was a witness was the great malcolm mugerige and upon one of his returns made these comments about what he saw. talking about these american progressives. they're unquestionably one of the wonders of the age that i shall treasure until i die. the spectacle of them traveling wit

there was a period when stalin wanted numbers to be too low and 90. later in the 70s for the numbers were wanted to be too high. and the people who actually worked on this on the record keeping was incredibly anything. but in general, that the only reason i didn't include it. but you're right. if you put a military vestige of this as well, by my calculation, about half of the deaths in the entire second world war, including the specific theater happened in the blood plans as well. so we are looking at a catastrophic loss of life. but on the talk about memory. i don't talk about memory because i thought for a couple of reasons i thought it dilutes the overall project. i thought if any of my entries about memory of the unknown, then people would read the history in terms of what i have to say about memory, which is the very last thing i wanted among other reasons because they care about memory discussions. as of the greatest contribution to memory discussions would be to try to write a history, which was as unbiased and professional and solidly grounded

the death of stalin is mouse liberation.r a very long time, mao was being very much indebted to stalin, and he sees himself as their real leader of the socialist camp. think about it. stalin never let the bolshevik revolution. lenin did. mal sees himself as somebody who brought humanity to what he would describe as liberation. mao was the one unlike stalin who fought the americans to stand still in the korean war. after mao's that's a rather rotund and awkward man called liu shaoqi succeeds him and mao has very little respect for that particular person. now when he goes to moscow in 1957 and liu shaoqi openly proclaims that the soviet union has -- is going to overtake the united united states in the production of butter, milk and other dairy products, mao jumps in and says we will overtake england. you may overtake the united states but we will overtake england, still seen as a major power within 50 years. he states his own prestige on the great leap forward from socialism into communism. but most of all of course, what mao

much of their time and money and effort to control farming and as we all know that didn't work for stalin when he collectivized the farms and it's not going to work not we need larger farms we need better organization we need better use of technology and ultimately that will feed the world without any problem whatsoever even as we see a large and increasing population what do you think about this carolina mean i asked if the current status quo is sustainable because if we continue to see these price increases and already on this program we have a variety of interpretations of why this is happening but is the current situation sustainable because we've seen the political effect all through north africa and probably will continue to see the knock on effect of political turmoil because of high food prices. well indeed and the world food program which is responsible for feeding approximately one hundred million of the world's hungry but that's only a tenth of the nine hundred twenty five million who are hungry now according to the f.a.a. oh this this affects us very much because over half of

this war on drugs is something out of stalin's russia. and let's stop this war on sex offenders before this gets way out of hand. it is already way out of hand. [applause] i know we are concerned about sexual assault and rape and people assaulting women and children -- i know that. most of the people in prison as sex offenders are not those people. i call them romeo and juliet's. he is 19 and she is 16 or she is 19 and he is 16. that is the most of the mark. let's face it -- we should know, especially in san francisco, that as human beings, we are not really comfortable with sex. some of us do not even know who we are, right? from day to day, right? you know, i mean, sex is a very complicated issue. the idea that sexual behavior and people's aberrations with it or problems with it or confusions should send them to present for life sentences. in wisconsin, they have the same thing in iowa and illinois -- actually have built prisons just for sex offenders. can you imagine? the entire prison are sex offenders, mostly young men. that is what

ipod think he is here somewhere but whether it was stalin or lenin -- >> i gave him -- >> thanks to that last panel and amy and we're going to adjourn to lunch. thank you. [applause] [inaudible conversations] >> after the lunch break, fcc commissioner robert mcdowell spoke at the conference. he is interviewed by randolph may. this is an hour. >> okay. i think we are all set. we will get started. who want to welcome our c-span audience. we are pleased that c-span is with us today and we thank them for that. i am pleased now to have with me fcc commissioner robert mcdowell. i will give his former short introduction in a few minutes. you know if you are with us this morning, we had commissioner mary beth baker delivered the opening keynote. nice to have as a book and. and noticed a lot of audience members from the last two conferences. commissioner mcdowell mentioned this was moved her annual conference so i have no compunction about using that. it has a ring of permanence but the first two occupants of the chair you are sitting in, the past fcc chair and the incoming -- he was on the verge

this war on drugs is something out of stalin's russia

you hear again and again -- well, stalin and these guys were an aberration. it's a good idea in theory -- no. read it. you can read it in two hours. it's a horrible book. read marxist's ten point plan. read marx, the entire theory of the communist maybe summed up in a single sentence. abolition of private property. my 3-year-old daughter can tell you you are going to have to kill people if you do that. abolition of private property, that's a good idea? i mean that's craziness. i could look at that right there in 1850 and say you know how many people are going to have to die. you are going to have to kill to pull that off. not a good idea in theory. which is why almost everywhere it's been tried, anywhere on the planet, whether in asia, africa, eastern europe, or whenever, widespread blood shed. the university of california berkeley, martin said in each of the cases and countries where communist has been tried. the massive annihilation of human human beings and repression and crimes far out did anything in the previous experience or nationality or history of a

now, remember, ceasar didn't do that, comwell didn't do that, napolean didn't do that, stalin didn't do that, mao didn't do that, castro didn't do that. george iii says, if he does that, he will be the greatest man in the world. he did and he was. final little story. a few years later in the middle 1780's, as george iii begins to become dill lutional, the london papers say the first delusion he has is that he's not george iii. he's george washington. [laughter] thank you very much. [applause] >> stay for questions, but bill, >> mr.mething. [applause] upstairs that professor ellis just mentioned what i think many of us believe to be one of the most important documents in our history, the newberg address. and should you wish to see the newberg address, it is upstairs. in the red room. and you are invited after he has taken his questions to view the newberg address. >> it really is one of washington's most eloquent speeches and school kids ought to read it. he wrote -- i think he wrote most of this himself, though he had a lot of assistance. gosh, it sounds patriotic in a stupid old fas

he met stalin twice, once when he present his credentials, and he told stalin, bringing the message from truman that we want to cooperate with the soviet union, but to no mistake that for weaknesses. and next time he met him was during the height of the berlin crisis that eventually spun into the berlin airlift. bedell smith coming from london obviously talk to a soviet official, interesting thing here is that smith bought as point man for the west that he had handled the deal with uncle joe. but as it turned out the state department and marshall thought otherwise, and that never came to be. now, smith was suffering from chronic health problems related to ulcers and other complications. he wanted to leave moscow which was no garden spot. he returned to command the first army which was for old soldiers go to fade away. he had half of his, and much of his do want them removed any major city. he found time to write a book about his observations about the submarine and which in hindsight could be very president. again, duty called. truman asked him to take over the direction of the cia which

those are the headlines now he was put in power by foreigners of stalin before dismantling. of personality and going on to head the development of the. secret behind they were. full of contradictions and paradoxes for nearly two decades. in the press many continue to remember him to his resignation. i think he was the best and. yes he was. publicly that the soviet union would catch up with america and do it. communism in his country. he believed that possible.

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak aboutthe rehabilitation of political prisoners ship but instead. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes. people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived and worked in the united states for many years in the country. overtaken. crucial remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist he promised the soviet union would be rid of its last priest. come here about. the debates against. his dog is still an open question. protests continue to sweep across the arab world sparked by the revolutions in tunisia and egypt and we'll have the latest on what their rest could mean long term . hungry is a challenge experts say wising food points to the pile driver recent unrest with the wondering of the looming catastrophe and social upheaval. a politician in lithuania may face jail for disagreeing with his government it claims local authorities are not soviet troops while behind the fatal uprising in the baltic state twenty years ago. and a very we

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought of people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived and worked in the united states for many years in the country that is fun to overtake and. crucial remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist he promised the soviet union would be rid of its last priest. sometimes the visitors who come here. by his grave the debates. and. await his dog is still an open question. frustration with. boiling point to. push for change. economic and political. battles of. independence from. twenty four hours a day protests across the middle east and north africa have shown no signs of abating by the example set by egypt that governments. are exclusive pictures on the streets of the capital demonstrations for health attacks by police and appeals for calm from the military. straight days protests have hit some of the arab world's poorest country.

what this means of all of the killings that took place come up organized by hitler and stalin from the atlantic to the pacific, the tremendous majority of the mass murder was concentrated in the relatively small territory. this is the event that caught my attention and strikes me that once we know the numbers and we can localize the numbers and time and locate in a place, what we see is an event that has few comparisons in the history of the world. the question is, why is there no history of this event? why has no one see that as the event? why wasn't there britain before? i'd like to say a few words why i think that is. in the last 20 years the reason we have had the opportunity to write the history is a soviet union collapsed in 1991 this was very important obviously in terms of understanding the history of the soviet union and communist eastern europe. however it was also incredibly important to understand the history of nazi germany. why is that? very simple. the germans carried out almost all of their killings on territories then immediately after the war fell behind the iron curt

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes. people. remains a controversial figure to his death he has lived in the states for many years in the country. to overtake and. remains. atheist the soviet union. priest. come here. and. is still an open question. i demand for political reform met with violence and uncertainty in the middle east and north africa and i will continue. i will not support initiatives that will leave our military less capable and less ready to fight america's top military officials stand guard over their. massive cuts on to the rest of society. and importing extremism cause of our box three years of self proclaimed independence because the growth of the flow of saudi money is turning it into a training ground for radical islam. worldwide news live from the center of moscow you with r.t. the under pressure governments of the middle east and north african countries by a wave of protests are now resor

at the same time he also believed that stalin was going to bomb the u.s., and he always -- he was anrchitect of mutually assured destruction. he said, which i quote, he said, what the russian generals and stalin to know that if they send a bomb this way they're going to be blown up in the next half-hour. so he is a very interesting person. being in washington reminds me that when atanasoff live your after the war and build his facility for his new company he studied with a nuclear plant would go if washington was bombed. he built his company up. this seems to be incredibly dated and used and naive. yet it is really a telling feature of the time. they expected it to happen. they planned. they planned what to do in case it happened. so at the same time you have world war ii going on. there is the cold war going on. the place where i am typing on my apple, it know, seemed so much beyond that this is how it came to be. >> host: what characters that you were looking to do you find yourself wanting to understand more of? did you mean how many families? >> guest: no. >> host: abcaeight. >>

never talked about moving stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death he has lived in the united states for many years in the country. overtaken. remains. atheist the soviet union would be rid of a priest. who come here. about. the debate. is still open question. the top stories from also protests continue to sweep across the muslim world spawned by the revolutions in tunisia and egypt pro-reform two us traitors take to the streets and lead a yemen bahrain and then run using the internet to plan a day of action all says day. and opposition politician in a different way and may face up to two years in jail for disagreeing with his government's version of recent history he denies the official account of the soviet troops who were responsible for the gun battle in vilnius nearly fourteen people were shot dead in one thousand nine hundred ninety five and one. hundred f

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought of people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived and worked in the united states for many years in the country that is fun to overtake and. crucially remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist the soviet union would be rid of its last priest. come here about. the debates against. his dog is still an open question. chaos and instability in the arab world as protesters in the region copy the example set in egypt. by demanding reform. anti-government sentiment is mounting in other parts of the middle east and north africa with people calling for change join me points here in a few moments for more. wall street financial giants are being accused of fueling demonstrations all around the world by causing a hike in food prices making people hungry for revolution. plus a politician in lithuania may face jail for disagreeing with

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners shipped with pride he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes. he always. remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived and worked in the united states for many years in the country that is fun to overtake and. remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist he promised the soviet union would be rid of a priest. come here about. the debates against. his dog is still an open question. all these top stories the uprising in tunisia and egypt continue to inspire a wave on the rest across the middle east and north africa as demonstrators vaulting trying to clash with police and several countries as bahrain bans demonstrations the military now running egypt has arrested the former interior minister over the police closed down on projects before dictator hosni mubarak was toppled. in the you asked pentagon officials have been before senate budget committees seeking to slash america's staggering fourteen trillion

never talked about moving stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners should. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death he has lived in the united states for many years in the country. overtaken. remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist the soviet union would be rid of a priest. who come here about. the debates against. is still an open question. hungry for the full story we've got it first hand the biggest issues get a human voice face to face with the news makers. and it. all. the real top stories on our series the middle east is engulfed by violent protests heard by on the rise in egypt and tunisia but experts warn it's too early to talk of the regime change while militaries from mainland charts. the turbulence in north africa and the middle east sent thousands of immigrants to europe but leaders there now multiculturalism one activist finds herself on trial for doing the same. and weak you weak ste

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners should instead. he talked about how he provided for thousands of people with new homes he always thought of people. crucial remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived and worked in the united states for many years in the country that is fun to overtake and. crucial remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist he promised the soviet union would be rid of its last priest. sometimes the visitors who come here about legacy by his grave the debates against. and. await his dog is still an open question. all c's top stories this hour treasures continue to sweep across the muslim world spawned by the revolutions in tunisia and egypt provence saying demonstrators take to the streets and lead a yemen bahrain and to run and iran using the internet to plan a day of action on says day. and opposition from the titian in lithuania have made face up to two years in jail for disagreeing with his government's version of recent history denied

stalin was a master of this. let me steal a phrase from boston harbor about peaceful revolution. linguistically ben ali was acting president of tunisia. king abdallah was the henchman reminding this french historian of louis xvi. in 1789 ben holly seemed to sense the need to allow some public spirit to exist but turned out to be his last speech that betrayed his fundamental misunderstanding of the new reality, quote, and i decided freedom for the media with its channels and cadets sites with any form of monitoring. the critical phrase was the death toll of his tunisian. the acting president is no better unconsciously revealed that his acceptance speech is the same attitude. first and foremost, quote, in the state's supreme interest, and national unity. toomey sean hannity forces allied the fight for the supreme interest of the states against those lead by someone who stands for the republic. they hope his commission will be that frankfurt assembly of our day. was a group of german intellectuals and university professors who gathered together in 1848 to create a unified german sta

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners ship but instead. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived in the states for many years in the country. overtaken. crucial remains. atheist the soviet union to be rid of a priest. come here about. the debates against. his is still an open question. post-race and with governments reaches a boiling point across the middle east and north africa as protesters push for change at the same time egyptians are starting to question the l. come of their unrest the. u.s. military's forty two female to hold onto its multibillion dollar budget claiming cuts will cost lives but some say americans are already in the deep end with many on the edge of poverty. economic woes and political turmoil because of a battles a tarnished image on its third anniversary since declaring independence from serbia . not from our studios here in central moscow this is r.t. with

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death he has lived in the united states for many years in the country. to overtake and. remains loyal. atheist the soviet union would be rid of a priest. who come here about. the debate. is still an open question. freedom of speech versus the official line a politician is facing trial for denying that saudi troops were responsible for the deaths of protesters in vilnius twenty years ago. bears vodka and ambitions for world domination r.t. explores how western media seems reluctant to abandon the bestselling cold war stereotypes when it comes to depicting russia. also soaring food prices are being seen as a major factor behind people taking to the streets in the middle east but could the world's richest countries be next. it is ten am in the russian capital you're watching r.t.m. arena joshie welcome to

he missed stalin twice. once when he presented his credentials, and he told stalin bring the message from truman that we want to cooperate with the soviet union but do not mistake that for weakness. the next time he met them was during the height of the berlin crisis that eventually sprung into the berlin airlift. here is smith just coming from london obviously talking to a soviet official. interesting thing here is that smith fought as the point man for the west that he had hammered out a deal with uncle joe. but as it turned out, the state department and marshall thought otherwise and that never came to be. smith was suffering from chronic health problems related to ulcers and other complications. he wanted to leave moscow. he returned to command first army which is where old soldiers go to fadeaway. he had half of the stomach and in the major surgery. he found time to write a book about his observation about the soviet union which in hindsight proved to be very pressing. he asked him to take over the dire

he told stalin, bringing the message from german that we want to cooperate with the soviet union.e do not mistake that for weakness. the next time he met him was during the height of the berlin crisis that eventually spun into the berlin airlift. coming from london obviously talking to a soviet official. an interesting thing here is that smith was point man for the west. he had hammered a deal. but as it turns out they thought an otherwise and that never came to be. now, smith was suffering from chronic health frost related to ulcers and other complications. he wanted to believe moscow. he returned to command the first army which was where all soldiers go to fade away. he had half of the stomach and much removed in major surgery. he found time to read his book about his observations about the soviet union which in hindsight proved to be back very prescient. again, the duty called. truman asked him to take over direction of the cia, which was in foundry just after the failure to anticipate the north korean invasion. what he had the only time in his career he did was carboys, power

i'm not sure whether you linked commissioner mcdowell to stalin, but i think you did. i think you did. so i may have to -- i may have to ask him about that or get you to do it. but actually this gives me an opportunity to say quickly, a lot of you have come in since i did the initial welcome this morning. we were concerned about getting everyone into the first amendment room with all of the registrants that we had and for some of you out there who are my good friends, possibly may have even discouraged you from eating as opposed to just standing up, but we have alleviated all of that. we're now going to be in the ballroom and that works better as well for c-span. so there is no -- absolutely no problem. i want all of you to come for lunch and, you know, i don't know whether i'm actually going to -- myself, link commissioner mcdowell to stalin personally, but i guarantee you we're going to have really a good conversation. it is going to be interesting and enjoyable. blair was actually the first -- when we did the first annual conference, he was the first person that i i

stalin did that. cnn's where did that -- the springtime ideal of people, the idea that there is a community of citizen since -- seemed to be a fantasy. it is the middle east of all places. one should not be saying that, i know. i agree. there is no going back. it scrambled all the cliches. >> people in china are looking at this and thinking -- hold on a minute. we can do this, too. >> i am sure they're going to be thinking about that. in fact, they control the internet much more tightly than the regimes in egypt and tunisia did. they've also been more successful providing employment and economic opportunity to their citizens. they can diffuse a lot of the anchor. -- anger. the same thing is going on in all of these authoritarian countries. dignity is trashed by a state that is arrogant and unresponsive. i think that is a pretty universal -- anger against that is a pretty universal feeling. >> there are obviously no rules. and in some revolutions, when the bolsheviks took over, at the revolution in ira

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived in the united states for many years in the country that is fun to overtake and. remains. atheist the soviet union would be rid of a priest. who come here about. the debate. is still open question. first. egypt's on rest is echoing throughout the arab world with thousands demanding political reforms and protests getting violent. anti-government sentiment is mounting in other parts of the middle east and north africa with people calling for change join me paulus here in a few moments for more. on this worldwide on rezzes led to a search for culprits with wall street and the doctor orchestrating food price hikes planting the seeds of revolution. plus a politician in lithuania may face jail for disagreeing with his government claims local authorities and not soviet troops were behin

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought of people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived and worked in the united states for many years in the country that is fun to overtake and. crucial remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist the soviet union would be rid of its last priest. come here about legacy by his grave the debates against. his dog is still an open question. the week's top stories on our detained mass public protests we've heard across the middle east and north africa demister. now taking to the streets of libya's capital tripoli this after at least two hundred people reportedly shot dead in the country's second city benghazi during a week of on wednesday. thousands of immigrants fleeing the unarrest in north africa flood to italy top european politicians claim multiculturalism has failed on the continent. or weak elites embarrassment for the u.s.

never talked about removing stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak about the rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes he always thought of people. crucial for remains a controversial figure to his death his son has lived and worked in the united states for many years in the country that is fun to overtake and. crucial remains loyal. and he was a confirmed atheist he promised the soviet union would be rid of its last priest. sometimes the visitors who come here end up owning about legacy. the debates against the. await his dog is still an open question. egypt's armrest is echoing throughout the arab world with thousands demanding political reforms and protests getting violent. antigovernment sentiment is mounting in other parts of the middle east and north africa with people calling for change you don't need points here in a few moments for. all this world one unrest has led to a search for culprits with wall street in the dark for orchestrating food price hikes planting the seeds of revolutio

never talked about moving stalin's cult of personality in the soviet union he didn't even speak aboutthe rehabilitation of political prisoners. he talked about how he provided thousands of people with new homes. people. remains a controversial figure to his death he has lived in the states for many years in the country. to overtake and. remains. atheist the soviet union would be rid of a priest. come here. the debate. is still. in the stories that showed the week from our team middle eastern states are ravaged by anti-government protests sparked by the uprisings in chewed his ear indeed at least two hundred rioters are reportedly killed by the military to libya. the european union scrambles to help italy with waves of north african immigrants as politicians and experts doubts whether multi-culturalism viable for you. pulling the strings swishy leaks has revealed the u.s. has been spying on top later officials and using pressure to distance the allies from russia. after man has now set foot on mas twice and though it was just a mock up trip it's hoped we would need a virtual journey wi

i'm not sure whether you linked commissioner mcdowell to stalin, but i think you did. i think you did. so i may have to -- i may have to ask him about that or get you to do it. but actually this gives me an opportunity to say quickly, a lot of you have come in since i did the initial welcome this morning. we were concerned about getting everyone into the first amendment room with all of the registrants that we had and for some of you out there who are my good friends, possibly may have even discouraged you from eating as opposed to just standing up, but we have alleviated all of that. we're now going to be in the ballroom and that works better as well for c-span. so there is no -- absolutely no problem. i want all of you to come for lunch and, you know, i don't know whether i'm actually going to -- myself, link commissioner mcdowell to stalin personally, but i guarantee you we're going to have really a good conversation. it is going to be interesting and enjoyable. blair was actually the first -- when we did the first annual conference, he was the first person that i i

a double suicide blast has rolled through russia's southern republic of douglas stalin killing two officers and injuring more than twenty people in a time a police station a couple went on just hours after a woman dispose of explosives. and the euro politicians are claiming multiculturalism has failed even saying it presents a potential security threat but as an attempt to adjust to a new society they demand solutions instead of big points they. also egypt's new military rulers have taken over from. the new constitution to be decided by birth brenden in syria but protesters who lead the. way to see the democracy and the democracy that see they seek will be limited by western and u.s. interests which by the dictates of us meanwhile the way we've made least of protests the protests rather has spread to iran and while they do i stay devolvement post messages on twitter in persian and. revolutionaries simulated trip to space to do that and find their reach malas as a trip to the red planet it's part of an experiment aimed at stopping the store one day make its journey. that is the headlines now