stan mcdowell's son was killed in afghanistan. parts of his remains may be missing.ers about the rest. >> maybe there are some things that's not what i think they should be. but i'll never know. >> carolyn learner hosts the office of special counsel. >> we're talking about people who gave their lives for our country. and who are due the highest level of reverence and respect. >> secretary panetta order additional investigations into dover. even though the top three leaders at dover have been reprimanded nobody has been fired but secretary panetta said he'll look into that too. >> the father you just saw in that story, stan mcdowell joining me live. stan, good day to you. >> good afternoon, craig. >> when were you first made aware that there were some -- there were remains that were missing? >> it was last saturday morning. my liaison todd rose and his superior and a chaplain called me on the phone saturday morning and gave me the information. >> and what did they say? how did they say it? >> well, first of all, they were very respectful, and they pretty much told me

stan mcdowell's son, mark mcdowell, was killed in afghanistan. parts of his remains may be missing. mcdowell now wonders about the rest. >> maybe there are some things that's not what i think they should be. but i will never know. >> reporter: caroline learner heads the u.s. office of special counsel. its investigation of dover found gross mismanagement, violation of rules and regulations and a pattern of misconduct and dishonesty. >> we are talking about people who gave their lives for our country and who are due the highest level of reverence and respect. >> reporter: secretary panetta today ordered additional investigations into dover. the three top leaders at dover have been disciplined but nobody has been fired. secretary panetta says he'll look into that, too. jim miklaszewski, nbc news, the pentagon. >>> turning now to politics. the presidential race. last night's cnbc republican debate. even if you didn't watch the broadcast you have probably already seen what happened last night to rick perry. nbc's chuck todd was there and is with us tonight with the moment that's really a

stan mcdowell's son died in a fighter crash in afghanistan in 2009.s a christian. that he is in heaven so maybe there are some remains that did not end up in his burial site. we know mark is separated from his body and he is in heaven. wow! greg, what are these family members demanding of the air force? what kind of discipline has been handed out here? >> well, so far, i mean there have been a whole host of problems that have been uncovered at dover. so far nobody has been fired. people have been sort of reassigned to positions of less experience. one sort of letter of reprimand was given to an air force colonel which is a career ender for him. he won't get promoted again. he will get retired at his full wrank full benefits. no one has been fired and i think there is some concern among families that appropriate accountability has not been put into place. people should lose their jobs. >> as we mentioned, secretary panetta asking for this independent investigation. i know you'll stay on it and we'll read your articles there. thank you so much. >>> the