can you talk about -- stanek and the other 45. [laughter] >> can you talk about where are the papers and if you could ask him, james madison today one question that emerged from the research what would have question be? >> it is a puzzler and i would have to think about that. the papers are in different places. you have to travel a little bit and go to princeton because they are in published papers and you have to go to philadelphia. there are unpublished papers about the presbyterian historical society. but 30 volumes of the papers are online. they have been digitized and they've done a wonderful job of digitizing them. it's been done by the university of virginia said they got that. research is so much easier now than it has been before. if i was the chairman of the national endowment for the humanities at a time, and i used to be appalled at some of the things that we funded but if they were to increase the budget so they could make the funding of the founders papers and digitize them that could be a good expenditure. i can't g

stanek certainly in the rural areas it is a challenge to build networks where there are very few people. and that's where the availability gap would be. >> and it's a shortfall -- again i'm just looking for actions to address this and there are a lot of conversations that folks are trying to make on the cheap pop-ups available for students and things going on. but on getting the technology to that end user, give me your unbiased appreciation of the universal service funds. we have the resources necessary to take on that end of the issue and if not, what is a more realistic approach? >> the fcc is in the middle of reforming the fund to make it more efficient and focused. so i think if they can get that operationalize and in the field what we will be able to see us if there is enough money there is about four and a half billion dollars on the high cost fund on the availability. >> can you tell me some of the e issues you are working on to make that more efficient? >> how best to target the funding and identify the areas that rea really need the funding versus those that can get by without