and then they came down to the basement up at stanford psychology department. the place where the prison study was done is prison is made to feel inferior, insignificant, worthless. the most important thing is you take away their name, they become a number. and of course, given they have smocks it with no underpants there behind, is showing like my 1st hour in there. it was humiliating. that was also abrupt was quick. it was just you know, take them off, put this on. and then i got dusted with baking soda, which was supposed to be the d. lauser. and i was living in the cell. what is embargo did was a very cheap knock off of the kind of thing that milgram was doing. not always embargo, but i think, you know, the guard called john wayne believed that ethics don't matter if the environment is artificial and that's not true. all life is real life. we needed to get tougher with the prisoners. and it could well be that we were instructed by the experimenters to get to in fact, i don't think we considered ourselves to be a subject of the experiment. we're merely a too