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stanley. >>> welcome back. nelson pelt having lunch with president trump and treasury secretary.cott walker they discussed the economy and he considers the president a close, personal friend. sources saying they did have the meat loaf. >> somebody has to have this recipe out there somewhere. i'm hoping there's no secret ingredient. >> i don't think i've had meat loaf. i had meat cake when i was living abroad in spain. >> is that not just a semantic? >> i've seen it. i might have had it, but this was not. >> probably hold out for the white house meat loaf. if it's going to be your first. >> i'm not going to hold my breat breath. >> another good friend is jeffrey immelt of ge. they both said that, i believe. he's in that little circle of business leaders and of course, you know, nelson wants a you know -- >> what do you think, now that they're incentivising for more of the performance on the industrial side. >> great, let's do it. for many years after he got the job, he really had to cut him a lot of slack. it was a tough entry point. some of the capital allocations didn't seem rig