>> commissioner stansbury: well, you're the chair. the ad hoc committee leading the search, maybe you can explain it to the board. >> vice-president casciato: no, because i'm asking you as the personnel chair, because the personnel committee -- that was the factors that were argued to get the increased salary. >> commissioner stansbury: when you changed the structure a couple weeks ago when you made yourself the chair of the ad hoc committee and you voted to combine the two roles, i think that it is you who needs to speak to this -- no me. the personnel committee has no jurisdiction or control over this search at all. >> vice-president casciato: no, i was asking because you were in charge of the initial job description and you were seeking and pushing for a c.e.o. or an executive director who had investment experience, investment knowledge. correct? >> commissioner stansbury: what point are you trying to make? >> vice-president casciato: i'm just asking you to why is it that the c.e.o. has to have investment experience, investment kno